Marine Blue

I don't have any issues with what Singer is doing, there's a market for a high end old school 911's and they have a stunning product. Having said that I think that Singer will need to come up with new designs otherwise the product will eventually get stale. The Singer Targa is clearly a progression but you have to wonder if this was customer driven or if Singer decided to branch out.

As far as 964's dwindling I think that is primarily due to the very poor resale values over the past two decades. These cars were daily driven by tons of people and many are now worn out, rusted, totaled or parted and I think like 928's there's a large volume that fits this description. So the good cars that remain are fetching and will likely continue to fetch high dollars and if anyone wants to get in they're going to have to pay up or get lucky.

The only real bargains for Porsches at the moment are the 944's, 924's and 996/986.

cobalt

I have a friend who sells a lot of used Porsche's and exotics. I would venture to guess a dozen or more of the cars in the picture are ones he sold. These were not worn out cars by any means but cars that needed a little TLC. The cars most of us here are looking for.

He stated that some of the cars were sold for top dollar and were what he considered desirable 964's. The worn out and damaged cars still sit. He also sold a number of targas. I must assume targas will continue to be built.

Unfortunately I have no interest in owning any of the bargain Porsche's.

I was talking to someone the other day that apparently almost commissioned a 964 WB singer. Assuming it is a true WB with Singer internals I would be interested as well. The engineering is superb the rest I can do without.

911Jetta

+1

Singer has mentioned in a past interview that he was interested in building a more "budget version" that retained the factory 964 looks but all their updates and attention to detail underneath. I would love to see the Singer treatment, updated to a 90's style that would be appropriate to the era.


Singer Longhood, RSR and 964 would make a nice product range!
(and a good reason for current Singer owners to buy more cars)

Chris Harris' tweet a while back:

n1ne11

Dickies 964 RS?

Vandit

I think that mint 964 is a Carrera 2 and belongs to Maz from Singer (P1CR on Rennlist). I remember when it was listed on the PCA classified ads for $35k or something ridiculous by today's standards. 911Jetta made a thread about it.

911Jetta's thread.
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...s-a-964-a.html

n1ne11

Thanks a lot!

JohnK964

I have to agree with some of the other posters to this thread I am not so much off a fan of how the Singer cars look but really like the sound of the engines they build. I think it goes back to my younger years when I built my Harley it was a choice then spend the money on how it looks or how it ran I always went with how it ran looks were always second

911Jetta

Another video. The dash looks interesting...

LPMM

Same here. I have seen 3 in person and while they are very nice cars, I found them a bit underwhelming. For me, there are better options in that price range. OTOH, their engines are incredible and on another level, definitely worth selling a few body parts for.

bruce911

They had quite a few at the track last August for the Historic races - beautiful.

The Brewmeister

That center of the hood fuel fill would wear thin on me on the first fill up. Ridiculous for a street car.

mooty

^ that's an option, the standard singer doesn't have that. you can save some money there ;-)

JasonAndreas

There's an APP for that!

cobalt

Ivanhoe

If Singer stays in business long enough, they may re-create 964 body-shells from brand new materials and current weld technology. Ford licensed "Blueprints" of their 60's mustangs.

Before purists bash this idea, it may be feasible for Singer, and for those who wish to save the remaining 964 in their original condition.

Interesting:
http://www.mustangandfords.com/proje...lacement-body/