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Ealokens Porshe 951 -> engine has started
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Hi, first i want to say thanks for all the help and good spirit in this forum :D
I have a 1986 951 that is getting a makeover. Specs: Vitesse stage 2 turbo 750cc injectors 40mm tial -WG 4" LR exhaust Yellow adjustable konis Turbo gearbox with LSD Bigger swaybars. This winter im installing: Emu ecu engine management system with a new engine harnes, as i dont like 30 year old cables. Weichers rollcage 8,5+10" azev a wheele 235/45-17 and 255/40-17 Toyo R888 |
Nice car.
How do you like the Vitesse Stage 2 turbo? How much boost do you run, and what rpm do you get full boost by? Does the boost decline close to redline? Got any dyno plots? |
Originally Posted by 944crazy
(Post 13806377)
Nice car.
How do you like the Vitesse Stage 2 turbo? How much boost do you run, and what rpm do you get full boost by? Does the boost decline close to redline? Got any dyno plots? Well, its a bit laggy and old, im planing a 3L16V with another turbo in about 2 years. But, i think getting rid of the old piggyback Vittesseracing ( wich is a SMT6), and installing a modern EMU Ecu will do a lot of respons. Meaby the car can to 800 km to 80 L of gasoline, now i have been doing 500 km to 80L. :banghead: |
Oh, I wouldn't have thought that turbo is laggy. How laggy exactly? I'm asking because I'm considering the vitesse stage 2 as a future upgrade for my car.
500km is about all I get out of tank as well...though I am a bit of a lead foot. |
Originally Posted by 944crazy
(Post 13806652)
Oh, I wouldn't have thought that turbo is laggy. How laggy exactly? I'm asking because I'm considering the vitesse stage 2 as a future upgrade for my car.
500km is about all I get out of tank as well...though I am a bit of a lead foot. Trackday use was 300km on 80L So my engine is getting "washed" in fuel. |
I aim for 15:1 on cruise... but I don't have a cat. Even with one, 14-14.7 is still plenty safe. Better gas mileage than stock. I never measured the AFR on the cruise portion of the stock tune but I'd imagine it's a little fatter.
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No cat here either.
First i need to make the new engine harness, and make my rear seat delete plug, mount my Stilo intercom and then, in january go to my tuner :) |
Your car should not run 10-11 AFRs while cruising. The software is configured to run 13.5-14.5:1 while cruising, and it uses closed loop.
Apparently there is something wrong with your setup, either the PiggiBack is tuned incorrectly, a bad ground (which is common) or a few more items to check. May be too late now, as you already pulled off the engine management. The kit on your car is roughly 10-12 years old. The turbo you have is very fast spooling, but the rich AFRs and possibly the boost control method are hurting spool. Good luck with your project.
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13806658)
On cruising AF is about 10-11,5, schould be 13 ish with no boost.
Trackday use was 300km on 80L So my engine is getting "washed" in fuel. |
Originally Posted by fast951
(Post 13807347)
Your car should not run 10-11 AFRs while cruising. The software is configured to run 13.5-14.5:1 while cruising, and it uses closed loop.
Apparently there is something wrong with your setup, either the PiggiBack is tuned incorrectly, a bad ground (which is common) or a few more items to check. May be too late now, as you already pulled off the engine management. The kit on your car is roughly 10-12 years old. The turbo you have is very fast spooling, but the rich AFRs and possibly the boost control method are hurting spool. Good luck with your project. Im taking the old out, i need a standalone. thanks :D |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13807813)
Hi, i tried to send you an email, do you have any specs on my turbo? compressor map?
Im taking the old out, i need a standalone. thanks :D With E85, race gas and/or water Methanol you can run more boost and make more power. |
Originally Posted by fast951
(Post 13808062)
Yes I replied to your email shortly after I received it. Your turbo will support 380-400rwhp with the proper octane. I recall you mentioned the car running 340-345rwhp on pump gas for the past 7-8 years or so.
With E85, race gas and/or water Methanol you can run more boost and make more power. Thanks :) im aiming for 380-400, yes the turbo was bought in 2007 from you :) |
Todays evening in the workshop, got my brackets welded by a friend.
Got my vibrodamping installed, and some pictures of later goodies. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c804786636.jpg The bracket for my rollcage https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c92a18b3e3.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e958b4ba58.jpg Vibromats sound dampeing https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...39170f3319.jpg Aquasump sylinder https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...41f839e14b.jpg Stilo intercom central. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...84daea7464.jpg WRC stilo headset |
Vibromat work looks good.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 13810523)
Vibromat work looks good.
thanks, spent 3.5 hours on that, but i hope it will kill some sound. Was 90db in 130 km/h inside the car. |
wow thats actually pretty loud. 80db over 8 hrs is the limit exposure threshold at my work, and because sound is logarithmic 90 is freakin loud :)
For comparison the paint booth at my work which is running at this very moment....is 85 db inside. |
My buddies bought the stilo system for my 30th birthday, so they can call me when i drive :P
i hope to be down to 75-78db next year. |
Just finished the vibrodamping instalation.
Next is to make the rearseat delete insert. |
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X-mas came early this year.
I just bought this, need some TLF. OZ Magnesium 9x17" from a Porsche 944 cup car. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5314e9e89c.jpg |
Interesting weels! What are the ET numbers and what is the weight?
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Originally Posted by Smudo
(Post 13818664)
Interesting weels! What are the ET numbers and what is the weight?
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Since im gettiing a rollcage, i have removed the rear seats, so i decided to build a rearseat delete.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8df92ed5b.jpeg Tape layer one https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...268821656.jpeg take layer two https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5842683b34.jpg Fiberglass layer one https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f4fec1ad65.jpg GLassfiber + resin, two layers |
Now the "plug" is done. Next up is how to mount my helmet and intercom.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cc2d729967.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...907d3a84f1.jpg |
^ i got one of those in my shed right now lol
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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c4bf809638.jpgInstalled some Zimmermann sport brake disc in the rear today. With ebc NDX brakepads.
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So there they are, 8,5x17" And 10x17"
Fitted with Toyo R888 235/45-17 And 255/40-17 https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b7fbc453dc.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...eec4769e00.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c4eed4a568.jpg |
Looks good! I am also putting 17x8.5 in the front this summer with the same tire size. What is the ET of the wheels? Compared to the picture in the first post it seems that you have put on some spacers?
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Thanks :)
Frist post is 7,5x17 And 8,5x17" I moved the rear wheels to the front. |
Pin-out oem DME, before i start project EMU ecu
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ed4a445d64.jpg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13866420)
So there they are, 8,5x17" And 10x17"
Fitted with Toyo R888 235/45-17 And 255/40-17 |
I removed the head today, Im replacing the valvesealings, And sending the head to an engine specialist for some tuning.
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Flow numbers before head job.
232CFM 10 mm lift innlet Og 152CFM 10mm lift exhaust https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8a23acb6ca.jpg |
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Nice work, what's the cleaning process you used on the head? Soda blasting?
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 13932240)
Nice work, what's the cleaning process you used on the head? Soda blasting?
Thanks :) It was glass blasted, didnt do the upper cam cover since the camshaft still was inn. |
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where did you get the carpet for your rear seat delete project?
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I bought it from a high-fi shop, they use it on subwoofers and so, neede some cutting. then i used Motip Glue spray and some time, it`s not perfect. The carpet was about 20$
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Ah. Simple and easy to find. I could not tell from the pics but it looked like stock carpet material.
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I was lucky on the colour, And IT has some stretch, easy to work with :)
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So one of the intake valves had a danmage, Got that replaced, he has some job left before i Can mount it back in.
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Uppdate on the head.
Oem cfm before any job is about 200cfm. The blue graph is after the last "stage". Realt hoping this Will help the vitesse stage 2 turbo to make power from 3000rpm https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9547f439ed.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1e46c52582.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...900d693b89.jpg |
So there it is, 268 cfm
This is on standar valves And camshaft. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...64df96856c.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...70eb971c49.jpg |
Ecu bracket is done.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cc3cc9e61d.jpg |
Your stock head with stock valves and no port work is flowing 268 CFM???
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13986925)
Your stock head with stock valves and no port work is flowing 268 CFM???
The port is already to big, so no need to make it bigger, just "smarter" :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13987008)
The angles around the valve seat has been changed, the whole intake port has been redesigned and rebuilt.
The port is already to big, so no need to make it bigger, just "smarter" :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by Humboldtgrin
(Post 13987021)
Like using smaller diameter valve stems for the exhaust valves to add more exhaust flow since the turbo head can't be ported or polished?
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Wrinklepainted cam house :)
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I find your numbers very hard to believe but see the chart. Your head flows nearly the same as Shawn's after major surgery and more than LR stage 3 which also has much work done. I spent over $5K to break 285 so just having a hard time buying these numbers with relatively little work. Of course, I am very keen to learn the magic. What were the lifts at stated flow?
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13987810)
I find your numbers very hard to believe but see the chart. Your head flows nearly the same as Shawn's after major surgery and more than LR stage 3 which also has much work done. I spent over $5K to break 285 so just having a hard time buying these numbers with relatively little work. Of course, I am very keen to learn the magic. What were the lifts at stated flow?
Who said it was little work? the ports are been reshaped to a totally different approach, valveseats are altered, valves refaced, and a lot of stuf I dont know About 3000$ in work + parts. |
Sorry, did not see all of that information.
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13987942)
Sorry, did not see all of that information.
No worries :) Ill post some pictures when i Get IT back Next weekend.:cheers: |
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Cool, love to hear all about it. I just got this one back too. Still have some finish work to do, but it is getting close.
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13988008)
Cool, love to hear all about it. I just got this one back too. Still have some finish work to do, but it is getting close.
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What are the rings on your head URG8RB?
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It is this.
http://www.4451asr.com/page5.html
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 13989368)
What are the rings on your head URG8RB?
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They are gas vector rings from Jeff Lemons, along with new ARP studs which I relocated to be proper on center. The factory ones are not properly centered. Tim is making me a set of 321 Stage 2/3 custom headers to go with my very fancy 321 single Billet header flange that Jeff made me. All of it is machined to within 0.001" tolerance for perfect gas expulsion.
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Here are some pictures. If I can get them to post properly. This app still sucks.
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13987878)
Who said it was little work?
the ports are been reshaped to a totally different approach, valveseats are altered, valves refaced, and a lot of stuf I dont know About 3000$ in work + parts. Something to look forward to :). A customer of ours was running the same Vitesse Stage 2 turbo as you have, using the Vitesse Sledge-Hammer big valve head, Vitesse Cam and V-MAF+. The 951 was lots of fun. See the Good luck with your project. :cheers: |
Thanks John :)
Yes, Seat angles have ben changed / added. Next winter Im changing Turbo, piston, rods And cooling system. |
Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13990339)
They are gas vector rings from Jeff Lemons, along with new ARP studs which I relocated to be proper on center. The factory ones are not properly centered. Tim is making me a set of 321 Stage 2/3 custom headers to go with my very fancy 321 single Billet header flange that Jeff made me. All of it is machined to within 0.001" tolerance for perfect gas expulsion.
Jeff does good work. He's a nice guy! |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13993165)
Thanks John :)
Yes, Seat angles have ben changed / added. Next winter Im changing Turbo, piston, rods And cooling system. |
Originally Posted by fast951
(Post 13993203)
What are your performance goals.
so 450-500 whp in the long run? |
You will be surprised ad to what your car will do now :)
Do you have a plan for heat management? Already a large oil cooler in the work? |
Originally Posted by fast951
(Post 13993304)
You will be surprised ad to what your car will do now :)
Do you have a plan for heat management? Already a large oil cooler in the work? |
Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 13987810)
I find your numbers very hard to believe but see the chart. Your head flows nearly the same as Shawn's after major surgery and more than LR stage 3 which also has much work done. I spent over $5K to break 285 so just having a hard time buying these numbers with relatively little work. Of course, I am very keen to learn the magic. What were the lifts at stated flow?
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
(Post 13994749)
I too find this a bit fanciful but head flow figures vary like dynos plus most don't recalibrate which makes the figures look even more impressive. No doubt there is good work on this head but no way it's seeing a true 270cfm with stock valves and cam no matter what alterations to the seats/angles. Not to say it won't be a great car but we can't really compare each others numbers from various flow benches.
The intake has been redesigned ( smaaler inntake runner ) , i can post some pictures when i get it :) The car is going in the Dyno in about 4-6 weeks ( dynapack / rotortest ) |
What degree Mercury and lift?
Look forward to your results. :-) |
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EMU Bluetooth is done, so i Can log on trackdays without always having a laptop.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1ab2cf0e80.jpg |
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What's going on in those ports? Is this the miracle head?
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
(Post 14019827)
What's going on in those ports? Is this the miracle head?
"miracle" :roflmao: |
This is where the "miracel" happend.
Race lab on Facebook for some reason i cant put out an link. |
Seems to be more than one Race lab on FB. Where are you located?
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Norway :)
Race Lab AS |
What is that, some kind of filler?
Are you going to mount the head on with that broken bolt for waterneck or is that some kind of pin and is there on purpose? |
Originally Posted by 333pg333
(Post 14019827)
What's going on in those ports? Is this the miracle head?
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14019928)
What is that, some kind of filler?
Are you going to mount the head on with that broken bolt for waterneck or is that some kind of pin and is there on purpose? Im removing the bolt before i mount it, i had no time before i sent it away, hoping to get dynoed in april. |
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I get it. Those are pita to get out..
Ports look strange to me. Can you take a closeups of the ports insides? Is this supposed to be aditionally smoothed out or this is the end result? |
Its hard as concrete, it is the end result, flow numbers ar within 0.1 cfm.
He has made a lot of changes in the port, to make the air use the capacity of the valves. |
I see you're a MCM fan :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by Paulyy
(Post 14020248)
I see you're a MCM fan :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14020184)
I get it. Those are pita to get out..
Ports look strange to me. Can you take a closeups of the ports insides? Is this supposed to be aditionally smoothed out or this is the end result? Never seen something like that before. To see a real close-up would be good. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...76185c71cf.png |
How much did you pay for This portjob?
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Originally Posted by Paulyy
(Post 14020248)
I see you're a MCM fan :thumbup:
Originally Posted by Adonay
(Post 14020520)
How much did you pay for This portjob?
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...29e6bc5ac4.jpg
Getting there on the cables https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d672295c55.jpg Finaly done on the rear Seat delete https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cf0852edba.jpg Stilo intercom is mounted https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a6a9f62277.jpg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 13993275)
Killing some ///M`s, race some `911`s and sub on the Nurburgring?
so 450-500 whp in the long run? |
Originally Posted by 964-C2
(Post 14042034)
sub what on the Nurburgring?
I think 8.20 btg this year :) |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14042045)
Sub 8.00 btg is the long goal.
I think 8.20 btg this year :) |
I have 130 Laps in My own cars And 4000 on ps3.
But i know the risk of going fast, And i like to drive home ;) 1600km to Norway ;) |
Intake air temp sensor��.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d067ef981c.jpg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14042524)
I have 130 Laps in My own cars And 4000 on ps3.
But i know the risk of going fast, And i like to drive home ;) 1600km to Norway ;) |
Which sensor did you use?
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Originally Posted by Voith
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Which sensor did you use?
https://www.ksr.as/products/luft-tempratur-sensor2 |
Originally Posted by Smudo
(Post 14043906)
I have never been there - 1800 km from Riga - too far in a car with removed air conditioner. But might go with ferry to Rostock and then 700 km on German autobahn will take just 4.5 hours :) But you are right – that guy in the video was right on the limit.
This august im doing the Alps, 3500 km and no AC. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14042045)
Sub 8.00 btg is the long goal.
I think 8.20 btg this year :) Sub 8 btg is possible without to many mods, I have done a few just under 8 minutes in my 951, 7.57 as best. My biggest mods were springs/dampers and chip at 14 psi (semi slicks like toyo r888 or michelin cup should have helped another 8-10 seconds). The fastest lap I have filmed in my 951 is this 8:01. youtube.com/watch?v=3GvljS2tEDI When you have done 130 laps, I think you will agree that biggest problem when you are trying to set a good lap time is traffic (when you drive on tourist days). I have had very good experience driving very late in the season, just before they close the track for the winter. The track can be almost empty then. Like this 8:07 lap I had in my bmw 325 diesel (my daily driver) late november last year: youtube.com/watch?v=u5QS2n66Vbs |
Originally Posted by 964-C2
(Post 14045460)
Good job on your car, and good luck with your driving!
Sub 8 btg is possible without to many mods, I have done a few just under 8 minutes in my 951, 7.57 as best. My biggest mods were springs/dampers and chip at 14 psi (semi slicks like toyo r888 or michelin cup should have helped another 8-10 seconds). The fastest lap I have filmed in my 951 is this 8:01. youtube.com/watch?v=3GvljS2tEDI When you have done 130 laps, I think you will agree that biggest problem when you are trying to set a good lap time is traffic (when you drive on tourist days). I have had very good experience driving very late in the season, just before they close the track for the winter. The track can be almost empty then. Like this 8:07 lap I had in my bmw 325 diesel (my daily driver) late november last year: youtube.com/watch?v=u5QS2n66Vbs Thanks :) Yes trafic is a big problem on TF. Im considering a Trackday. |
Latest part's shopping.
EBC brakes With dog aproval. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...037e24edfa.jpg |
Anyone who's been there knows how fast a low/sub 8 is. Good luck :) I still don't have the balls at the 'ring to push it that hard. Progress is great, I keep an eye out for updates on Instagram.
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Originally Posted by Darryl H
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Anyone who's been there knows how fast a low/sub 8 is. Good luck :) I still don't have the balls at the 'ring to push it that hard. Progress is great, I keep an eye out for updates on Instagram.
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Finaly she Will turnin like i want. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...083d3b0f72.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aec1405781.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b326dfbbeb.jpg |
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New disc, braided hose And new pads https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fa76beb10a.jpg New carpent in the rear This saturdays work, realt getting the engine harness done. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0fa64d4a68.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3ac0aa220c.jpg |
Hi, are the pads EBC "Blue stuff". I had them on my car last season and did 4 track day events (thay will be still good also for this season), but I did like EBC "yellow stuff" better.
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Originally Posted by Smudo
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Hi, are the pads EBC "Blue stuff". I had them on my car last season and did 4 track day events (thay will be still good also for this season), but I did like EBC "yellow stuff" better.
Im planing on changing to Pagid or XP12 Next round. |
Great stuff. Subscribed. Getting ideas for my Turbo Cup (replica).
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Originally Posted by Matt O.
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Great stuff. Subscribed. Getting ideas for my Turbo Cup (replica).
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Really enjoying your thread ealoken.
You did an amazing job on the interior!! What type of wheels are those? I really like the look... I know you got Toyos but dunno the wheel make/brand. Any plans for seats/harnesses? |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14045375)
This one appears to be the same and is even cheaper? https://www.ksr.as/en/products/iat-sensor2 Did I calculate right this is about 15 euro? Dirt cheap. Have to buy few of these. |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14096133)
Really enjoying your thread ealoken.
You did an amazing job on the interior!! What type of wheels are those? I really like the look... I know you got Toyos but dunno the wheel make/brand. Any plans for seats/harnesses? Azev-A 8.5x17 And 10x17" Got them repainted :) Recaro Seat And 4point harness for trackday use :) |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14096189)
Thanks!
This one appears to be the same and is even cheaper? https://www.ksr.as/en/products/iat-sensor2 Did I calculate right this is about 15 euro? Dirt cheap. Have to buy few of these. |
Today's work, floorpan is out and ready to get LR kit.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...136a5dd845.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7d835231df.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ffb6ab61ef.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0a5933598e.jpg |
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Clean the hell out of your pan. We glass bean stuff at my work and that stuff is hard to remove and hard to see. Personally I hate the stuff for that. You clean and clean, tack cloth, wash rinse and it still shows up on paint jobs.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14100284)
Clean the hell out of your pan. We glass bean stuff at my work and that stuff is hard to remove and hard to see. Personally I hate the stuff for that. You clean and clean, tack cloth, wash rinse and it still shows up on paint jobs.
im painting it silver. |
That will look nice.
I would hate to see what a couple of bits of glass would do to the inside of a motor. I washed my cam tower for a good hour performing rinse and repeat after blasting it. |
Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14100378)
That will look nice.
I would hate to see what a couple of bits of glass would do to the inside of a motor. I washed my cam tower for a good hour performing rinse and repeat after blasting it. Im getting it washed ;) |
Baffle welded in, ring on the pickup.
Heat paint on the pan, And heat cover Where the exhaust is going under the pan. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...58b452e163.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b13d0dc3b8.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4ff64551d0.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8dda0b6057.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9a3cb07726.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...350b44059c.jpg |
That looks great :)
I can't remember with the LR baffle do you still install the plastic portion in the pan or does the baffle replace that? |
Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14108587)
That looks great :)
I can't remember with the LR baffle do you still install the plastic portion in the pan or does the baffle replace that? Thanks :p |
Finaly the plan is back up, front subframe back up.
Heat wrap installed. Next up is camhouse And new belts. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...96d9780680.jpg Zip ties to hold the sealing in place. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...480e155ecc.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...dac2f37b1f.jpg A super trix, took about 3 minutes to Get it in place. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a8cd447ae5.jpg Heat shield mounted https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0a718bae0b.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...121ecdbb67.jpg |
a thing of beauty!! TIG is so pretty!
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Beautiful welding but that ring does exactly nothing and in worst case it becomes restriction.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14114743)
Beautiful welding but that ring does exactly nothing and in worst case it becomes restriction.
Why? I did buy it at LR. With the bafle insert. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14114743)
Beautiful welding but that ring does exactly nothing and in worst case it becomes restriction.
If it was doing exactly nothing, how could it become a restriction....? I use the same ring....., it lowers the pickup point of suction approximately 1 inch lower in the pan to a source less likely to cause pump cavitation. The remaining cross section of the uncovered screen is several times that of the suction pipe. Sustained 6800 rpms on track with stable oil pressure proven. T |
How does it lowers the suction point by 1 inch if suction point is already tke lowest point of the pickup the only thing lower is the mesh Which has recessed space in oil pan. If that ring is welded just the right way it will touch the oil pan arround the recess in pan and actually seal the oil away from pickup.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14115170)
How does it lowers the suction point by 1 inch if suction point is already tke lowest point of the pickup the only thing lower is the mesh Which has recessed space in oil pan. If that ring is welded just the right way it will touch the oil pan arround the recess in pan and actually seal the oil away from pickup.
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You would recommend that you update the oil pan baffle to the later unit. It's not a bad idea also to use a new plastic piece in the oil pan rather then a 30 year old plastic unit. All mine have cracked on the mounts, don't know about yours.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-944-94...%257Ciid%253A1 |
Originally Posted by Humboldtgrin
(Post 14115202)
You would recommend that you update the oil pan baffle to the later unit. It's not a bad idea also to use a new plastic piece in the oil pan rather then a 30 year old plastic unit. All mine have cracked on the mounts, don't know about yours.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-944-94...%257Ciid%253A1 |
Did the brake lines And camber bolts today.
Hoping to Get the engine ready in 2 weeks, tuning And dyno in May. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4efcb730b7.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e641252e02.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b7c55dcbf8.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e2c3323f1c.jpg |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14115170)
How does it lowers the suction point by 1 inch if suction point is already tke lowest point of the pickup the only thing lower is the mesh Which has recessed space in oil pan. If that ring is welded just the right way it will touch the oil pan arround the recess in pan and actually seal the oil away from pickup.
If you follow the install directions (or safer yet, as with any custom add on, check and verify for yourself) and make sure the ring is flush with the top lip of the pickup there is plenty clearance for supply to the pump. Lindsey instructions say "skip weld" (they mean stitch) but this would defeat the purpose if there was not as good a seal as in the full weld in Ealoken's picture. Second possibility......fast laps/race wins may be due to the engine running without the resistance of that pesky oil.....;) T |
Here ya go......, 1.5 hour enduro, hot engine oil, severe track angles, race tire grip cornering forces, high revs, fast lap, race win.
With baffle kit. Do you really think this engine could live if the pickup tube feed was limited to less that it's maximum capacity...? Start is slow with full fuel tank (misjudged and started too heavy), start at 8.00. Sorry for the (?) OT Ealoken...carry on...., you’re doing a fine job, except those rubber rear sway bushings....:D T |
Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14108587)
That looks great :)
I can't remember with the LR baffle do you still install the plastic portion in the pan or does the baffle replace that?
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14115408)
Here ya go......, 1.5 hour enduro, hot engine oil, severe track angles, race tire grip cornering forces, high revs, fast lap, race win.
With baffle kit. Do you really think this engine could live if the pickup tube feed was limited to less that it's maximum capacity...? Start is slow with full fuel tank (misjudged and started too heavy), start at 8.00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJCTzniuMeE Sorry for the (?) OT Ealoken...carry on...., you’re doing a fine job, except those rubber rear sway bushings....:D T Brushings is on the list after the engine starts, season is just around the corner :D |
While I like your track video, Im not sure it was made possible by that piece of steel band :)
In my opinion in your instalation it is not choking oil supply so in essence it is doing exactly nothing. Good proof would be the cup series where they drove these cars much more to the limit compared to your driving yet I've never heard of #2 failure at those races and I know one of factory mechanics that wrenched on cup races personally. But hey thats only my opinion ymmv. I'll not use that or the baffle as there ia no proof that does anything even LR says on its web page they never dealt with 968 #2 failure. (The page where they offer crank air passages like those on later blocks.) |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14115482)
While I like your track video, Im not sure it was made possible by that piece of steel band :)
In my opinion in your instalation it is not choking oil supply so in essence it is doing exactly nothing. Good proof would be the cup series where they drove these cars much more to the limit compared to your driving yet I've never heard of #2 failure at those races and I know one of factory mechanics that wrenched on cup races personally. But hey thats only my opinion ymmv. I'll not use that or the baffle as there ia no proof that does anything even LR says on its web page they never dealt with 968 #2 failure. (The page where they offer crank air passages like those on later blocks.) Tires have made leaps and bounds since 944 Turbo Cup, I'd venture a bet that cornering forces are much higher today on race Hoosiers and modern suspension. Enough OT though, you go the route that you see best. T |
Got the biggest muffler in And painted the lower dash today.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14115482)
In my opinion in your instalation it is not choking oil supply so in essence it is doing exactly nothing.
I think we all have opinions on this matter, based on what we think is happening in side the "ol' slosh bucket". Unless we have concrete evidence it's really up to the builder to determine what is best. And that person may be right or may be wrong. We take a gamble and hope for the best. Same goes for the crank scrapers. Personally I really like the vertical oil mounted scraper. On the fence about the horizontal. I suspect the 2nd best practice after dry sump is to extend the oil pan 25+ mm and also extend the pick up tube exactly the same distance. I don't know if it's best to just extend the "bowl" of the sump or extend the section where it mounts to the block (like the 928 pan spacers)... probably both are good remedies, but then you must consider is this a street/rally car or a track car. I would like dry sump but the cash ain't there. I thought about lowering the pan or bowl, but with lowering the suspension already on a street car, it would be suicide. Thought about widening the bowl.... making it really wide to hold 1 or 2 litre extra oil but unless you have baffles will this cause the oil to migrate away from the pick up when hard cornering? Possible. Probable. No idea. So, because of how I perceive what happen in the pan, I subscribe to the baffle/collar with full weld like Ealoken has done so beautifully. |
Since actual pickup point is lower than that collar, there is no point whatsoever to weld it on. It might look smart but in reality its like if you glue something on the side of the straw. It won't help you get any more milkshake out of a cup.
I'm flabergasted that people don't realise that. But since there was a video proof posted of this band racing like a pro, it must be what engines crave! https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aa174cb70d.jpg |
Maybe that's where we see the function differently.
I totally agree with your statement about the straw. That's an excellent example. My perspective of the collar's function (when fully welded) is SIMPLY... depth!! In lower quantities of oil it'll suck less air. Hypothetical: You are in McD's drinking your favourite cold beverage with a straw. ... you're "Loving it";) as they advertise in Canada. But you get near the bottom of your drink. Do you push your straw to the bottom to suck the most from the bottom? I do. Would it help if you cut little slits an inch higher-? I doubt it, because like you say the volume or quantity is limited to the straw size. ANd when you reach the VERY BOTTOM, you'll HAVE BETTER VACUUM. -no vacuum leak! -------- anyway that's all I have to give on this subject, merely suggesting the strength of the collar is in it's ability to lower the point of suction versus the non fully welded, or no collar at all----------- Interested if you agree or not. Darn, now I want a chocolate shake!!:biggulp: |
But that's just it, there are no slits and suction point is already lower than where that band ends. Look at the picture I posted.
Btw: they have the same I'm loving it slogan here. :) |
Slow And steady. I hope to Get the ecu started this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14129195)
But that's just it, there are no slits and suction point is already lower than where that band ends. Look at the picture I posted.
Btw: they have the same I'm loving it slogan here. :) All I see is screen, something meant to keep the naughty bits out of a suction device. if the whole pickup tube was a mesh material, would it work well or would it *not* provide vacuum? -Anyway, maybe it doesn't matter, maybe I'm wrong :cheers: You build your engine in the way that pleases YOU. You do beautiful work with exceptional detail. I just realized 951and944S has basically the same argument as I do, didn't mean to rant, just thought I might be able to make a difference, but it's already been said. Hope you have a great weekend. Lets hope we all keep our cars rubber side down. AND BACK TO OUR REGULAR PROGRAM. |
Hey Big E,
Any updates? Is that VEMS? |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14147449)
Hey Big E,
Any updates? Is that VEMS? No, Im going With the EMU ecumaster. Got My last parts today, Meaby starting it Next week :) |
Sweet. Keep up the great work! Keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14148287)
Sweet. Keep up the great work! Keep us posted!
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Got a lot done today.
Changed cam And balance belt. Fitted the f@#ng exhaust under the engine. Heat schield back in place. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...188abdc57d.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d480c9f0c7.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...38353c7db5.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07705f31aa.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1879445587.jpg |
Exhaust temp sender on cross-over I am guessing?
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14154722)
Exhaust temp sender on cross-over I am guessing?
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Cam timing marks are off?
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Originally Posted by shortyboy
(Post 14154848)
Cam timing marks are off?
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So, Im getting there, might start tomorrow.
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Have you tried closing the hood with the IAT sensor like that?
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14164770)
So, Im getting there, might start tomorrow.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7a70af4a6d.jpg |
Originally Posted by NCLA951
(Post 14164991)
Have you tried closing the hood with the IAT sensor like that?
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So here she is, With alot of help from My buddies, it startet on frist try.
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6737229185.jpg
I need to clean it up And change to black hoses. |
Congratulations!! Enjoy!
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WOOHOO!! Yeah buddy!
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Congrats! Love the look with those wheels.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14167978)
Congrats! Love the look with those wheels.
Thanks, first time i see them on the car outside of the workshop :) |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14167134)
WOOHOO!! Yeah buddy!
:jumper::jumper: |
Originally Posted by Jon951
(Post 14167069)
Congratulations!! Enjoy!
:jumper::jumper: |
So, the status is.
Thermostat / waterpump is fubar, i hope Thermostat. One valve lifter is tikking. And i need to take out the bearing for mr upper balanceshaft, he makes a noice. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fc1653d6db.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a80e4ce8bc.jpg |
Ducking valve lifter!
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So i might need some new parts
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WTF?? Bad stuff :(
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How did it fail? Was it on the track or just street driving?
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Idle in the garage, 3bar oil pressure.
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Could this be from glass blasting oil pan? Did you change rings and bearings?
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14253266)
Could this be from glass blasting oil pan? Did you change rings and bearings?
I did clean it 1000% |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14253069)
Idle in the garage, 3bar oil pressure.
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Never touched the bottom.
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So, the plan is about this.
LA sleeves Wossner pistons H-conrods New turbo Oil channel fix in the engine block New oilpump New waterpump New And bigger oilcooler V-mount radiator/intercooler (bigger is better) And all the tiny Bolts, seals etc. Budget, 6000 $ https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1407d528de.jpg |
Found the cause? What is the situation with other bearings? Is epoxy on intake ports still on there or was it sucked in on that cylinder?
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You said earlier the upper balance shaft had a bad bearing. Do you think maybe there's a connection there? Maybe it was allowing oil that was supposed to go to the #2 rod to just escape back to the pan?
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Originally Posted by odonnell
(Post 14256074)
You said earlier the upper balance shaft had a bad bearing. Do you think maybe there's a connection there? Maybe it was allowing oil that was supposed to go to the #2 rod to just escape back to the pan?
I did check that out Yesterday, And it Looks in great shape. |
All but one f&@@ bolt... machine shop next..
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Scrape the nasty oil funk out of the hole around that broken stud and let it set in penetrating oil for a couple day, take a hammer and tap on it ever hour you can for those two days. Then clean the blocks deck and place down gorilla tap or something of the same to protect the block and use a really nice pair of vise grips and work the stud back and forth for as long as it takes to start working it loose. After it starts to loosen up you can work it out slowly by using a loosening and tightening method.
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Originally Posted by Humboldtgrin
(Post 14266651)
Scrape the nasty oil funk out of the hole around that broken stud and let it set in penetrating oil for a couple day, take a hammer and tap on it ever hour you can for those two days. Then clean the blocks deck and place down gorilla tap or something of the same to protect the block and use a really nice pair of vise grips and work the stud back and forth for as long as it takes to start working it loose. After it starts to loosen up you can work it out slowly by using a loosening and tightening method.
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr: |
What do you mean by - "Oil channel fix in the engine block"....?
T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14267459)
What do you mean by - "Oil channel fix in the engine block"....?
T Pictures will be posted. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14267466)
In the channel from the oil-pump and over to the Cranc,rods etc, there is a minor change where the oil goes to sylinder two, my mechanic has a tweak for this.
Pictures will be posted. T |
Why did it fail, what was the cause?
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14267466)
In the channel from the oil-pump and over to the Cranc,rods etc, there is a minor change where the oil goes to sylinder two, my mechanic has a tweak for this.
Pictures will be posted.
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14267477)
Very much looking forward to it....:corn:
T |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14267812)
Why did it fail, what was the cause?
Rodbearing on 2 syl. i think if i had used the car more last year, it would have failed. |
So small uppdate, getting a bunch of parts cleaned and coocked this week, and getting the last stud out.
Voith here sold me a nice cranc, Ian at 944online sold me all i need for my block in pump`s, bearings, seals etc. H-profile rods are ordered, the engine block will get nikasil treatment and some new pistons. I also got an 71 degree thermostat. But the question, what turbo schould i choose? Holset HX super 35 ? Garret GT3576 sith Tial house? Borgwarner S-200sx or EFR? Im aiming at 450 whp and a good long powerband. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4c30a3cf0c.jpg |
I sense your spirits are high... a "good attitude" mate.
Sorry to read of the mechanical failure... big bucks to repair. Looks like your are setting the bar high for power. |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14285168)
I sense your spirits are high... a "good attitude" mate.
Sorry to read of the mechanical failure... big bucks to repair. Looks like your are setting the bar high for power. i work for gatebil, so Im kind a used to engine failures. |
Got some parts washed And blasted today.
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Not trying to be a jerk, but you had the pan off and did all this work... were you not aware that the rod bearings should be changed?
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14289157)
Not trying to be a jerk, but you had the pan off and did all this work... were you not aware that the rod bearings should be changed?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...937110f013.jpg Because i scould have done it,but there was no noice when i parked it. So it's a 6000$ i told you so ;) My buddies already pinched me in the side so no hard delinga. The plan was to build a new engine, but not so soon. |
about a year ago I was looking at a very good condition 951 to purchase.
This was a high mileage (250,000 kms) but absolutely well taken care of. The owner wanted way more money than I could consider paying. In conversation, when I asked about rod bearings he said his Porsche trained mechanic (the only mechanic the seller has ever brought his car to since he bought the car NEW) assured him "the engines are good to 400,000 kms before you replace bearings". |
for a mildly street driven car with regular changes of good (proper weight) oil i could believe that.
ive driven original-everything 300k+ mile 944s and they felt and sounded the same as a 70k example. |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14289516)
about a year ago I was looking at a very good condition 951 to purchase.
This was a high mileage (250,000 kms) but absolutely well taken care of. The owner wanted way more money than I could consider paying. In conversation, when I asked about rod bearings he said his Porsche trained mechanic (the only mechanic the seller has ever brought his car to since he bought the car NEW) assured him "the engines are good to 400,000 kms before you replace bearings". 35000 km With 350 BHP And With a lot of trackday driving. Ill just take it AS a leason in life. |
Ok, so, i have a question.
What tho choose Gen 2 og Gen 1? https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...47e5b8e97.jpeg GTX gen2 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e1e40bc063.jpg GTX gen 1 |
Parts on deck.
Turbo ordered, gtx3576r gen2 Engine block is getting sleves (sponsored) https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...addce9dd7.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...30f610e9f7.jpg |
944Online.com are good people!
Regarding the turbo upgrade, will it be mostly "bolt in" or will fabrication be required? |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14341799)
944Online.com are good people!
Regarding the turbo upgrade, will it be mostly "bolt in" or will fabrication be required? The new turbo is v-band inn And out, so some fabrication is needed. Hoping it will make 450-500whp. |
that is a loooooooot of power!!! geez I'll be happy with 220hp this year. LOL
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14341904)
that is a loooooooot of power!!! geez I'll be happy with 220hp this year. LOL
Well, my friends Got Rx7 370whp, two 400whp Miatas,a lot of fast bmw's +++ so i need to follow the pack ;) |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14342027)
Well, my friends Got Rx7 370whp, two 400whp Miatas,a lot of fast bmw's +++ so i need to follow the pack ;)
I sure was looking forward to them. :corn: T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14342800)
Any update on pics of the oil correcting mod in the block....?
I sure was looking forward to them. :corn: T |
Hi ealoken. Who will change the sleeves for you and what manufaktur are they?
I think that i have to do the same job to my car next year.. Nice to se some project from my ovn country :-) Henrik. |
Originally Posted by Hengib
(Post 14345813)
Hi ealoken. Who will change the sleeves for you and what manufaktur are they?
I think that i have to do the same job to my car next year.. Nice to se some project from my ovn country :-) Henrik. Hvor holde du til? BTW, here is my new radiator project :) https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2f31b92612.jpg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14341850)
Hoping it will make 450-500whp.
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Originally Posted by Thom
(Post 14350755)
What camshaft will you use?
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So small uppdate.
Voith here sold me a 100% cranc :) The block is getting sleeved. The camshaft is getting rebuilt. ETA project, 2018. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...466c3d4227.jpg How to pack your crank 101 :) https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e9ce9b8efb.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...869f255892.jpg |
I am drooling over your wheel and tire set up
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Originally Posted by Druepy
(Post 14433058)
I am drooling over your wheel and tire set up
but..... when Im going big brake kit, they wont fit :( |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14433082)
Thank you :)
but..... when Im going big brake kit, they wont fit :( |
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14454313)
And then this arrived :)
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Originally Posted by fortysixandtwo
(Post 14456821)
Not planning on street driving it much?
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...99cc0fbb6.jpegThe s2 gearbox is sent away to make With the oem 951 one, And some extra.
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LA Sleeves done to the engine block.. :)
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14416749)
How to pack your crank 101 :) It did go slovenia -> sweden ->slovenia -> sweden so a bit of extra padding didn't hurt. :) Block looks awesome. love it. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14605270)
Got too many damaged parts myself so I try to spare that to others.
It did go slovenia -> sweden ->slovenia -> sweden so a bit of extra padding didn't hurt. :) Block looks awesome. love it. But it now rest`s in my office with all the other porsche parts. Engine building in januar i think. |
Good luck, should be quite a beast. I have to get my sh*t together and do something soon too. :)
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14605283)
Good luck, should be quite a beast. I have to get my sh*t together and do something soon too. :)
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You'll need to turn boost up to eleven to hit 500whp on 2.5 8v.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14605290)
You'll need to turn boost up to eleven to hit 500whp on 2.5 8v.
I hope his calculator is right :) :cheers: |
Judging by bulds that were completed over the years here, that is very optimistic. Your builder better have experience with tuning 951 because it just won't handle boost as good as some other cars.
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...running-9.html This is a good example of 8v build but it's 3L. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14605293)
Judging by bulds that were completed over the years here, that is very optimistic. Your builder better have experience with tuning 951 because it just won't handle boost as good as some other cars.
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...running-9.html This is a good example of 8v build but it's 3L. My head flows 30% more vs standar. New camshaft and Intercooler that suports the flow. February / March wil show :) :jumper: |
Careful. Germans would say: Besser ein Spatz in der Hand als die Taube auf dem Dach ;)
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14605297)
Careful. Germans would say: Besser ein Spatz in der Hand als die Taube auf dem Dach ;)
Well, time will show. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14605295)
My head flows 30% more vs standar
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Originally Posted by Thom
(Post 14605310)
Increasing overlap and trying to fill the resulting "compression leak" with an oversized turbo running lots of boost will be inefficient at best, and the engine will run quite bad at worst. Been there, done that. I ran a high duration camshaft up to 2.2 bar of boost with a GTX3076R without getting knock yet the engine was slower than with the stock cam at 1.2 bar of boost. The engine was just an inefficient heat pump. Only interesting detail I remember was popping out a valve stem seal or two because of the high boost.
My engine builder has built a lot of engines, and he calculates the engine before we dyno, and with that we know what it will make. My biggest conserne is all the doubters. Back in the day i had a 2.5l Volvo 4 syl it made 500 bhp on E85 and 1 bar boost. |
How many 8V 944 turbo engines has your engine builder made so far?
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Originally Posted by Thom
(Post 14605315)
How many 8V 944 turbo engines has your engine builder made so far?
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Great, looking forward to the results then :)
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Originally Posted by ealoken
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14609186)
What's the spec and price on clutch? I could use puck pressure plate like that too.
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Where did you bought it? Do they sell just disk?
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14609271)
Where did you bought it? Do they sell just disk?
Disc is one partnumber And the more important part the pressureplate is Another. Pricey bits, easy 1300€ |
I have new pressure plate and it appears to be same. I think more grip comes from same pressure on less surface..
This is the one I have. If you have time, please measure the thickness of black spring steel, I wonder if it's the same thickness.. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f0109486d4.jpg |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14610366)
I have new pressure plate and it appears to be same. I think more grip comes from same pressure on less surface..
This is the one I have.. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f0109486d4.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c640db8e79.jpg Here is the cars using the same Sachs performance pressureplate. PORSCHE : • 911 info 3.0 Turbo (191 kW ; 01/1975 - 12/1977) • 911 (964) info 3.6 Carrera RS (191 kW ; 06/1991 - 09/1993) • 911 (993) info Carrera RS Clubsport (220 kW ; 01/1995 - ) • 911 (996) info 3.6 GT3 (265 kW ; 03/1999 - 08/2005) 3.6 GT3 (280 kW ; 03/2003 - 08/2005) • 911 (997) info 3.6 GT3 (305 kW ; 03/2006 - 12/2009) • 944 info 2.5 Turbo (162 kW ; 08/1985 - 07/1988) 2.5 Turbo (184 kW ; 09/1987 - 07/1991) • 968 info 3.0 (176 kW ; 06/1991 - 11/1995) 3.0 Turbo S (224 kW ; 03/1993 - 11/1995) • 968 Convertible info 3.0 (176 kW ; 06/1991 - 11/1995 |
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Those are some nice lights.
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Great work with the car. Please let me know the fit and finish of those lights, they look great.
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Originally Posted by blitz951
(Post 14646044)
Great work with the car. Please let me know the fit and finish of those lights, they look great.
I will test fit when the car goes back in the workshop in february. ATM that place is held up by a Volvo 245. |
Love those lights.
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As I commented earlier they are nice.....but.....doing the currency conversion they work out to 1000.00$ Canadian for a set of headlights. That is a ton of money just for headlights and I am not cheap with spending.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14649088)
As I commented earlier they are nice.....but.....doing the currency conversion they work out to 1000.00$ Canadian for a set of headlights. That is a ton of money just for headlights and I am not cheap with spending.
I got a nice deal, and free shipping, since i bought two kits. And yes, they are expensive... This car is getting way over what i had in mind... But, that`s all forgoten after some driving in April... |
Ive have the same lights and had them shipped directly from Europe to Hawaii. These headlights are expensive, but they are the very best available for our cars. Fit is very close to like factory headlights, they are sealed, highly adjustable and lights are much brighter than stock.
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14605316)
10+
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Use Google translate, it’s in norwegian.
This is My engine head man Facebook Post Facebook Post the tuner has tuned Well over 500 cars. #crilletorque on face/ Instagram. |
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Funny guy :)
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Seriously I hope you can achieve your goals
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Originally Posted by lart951
(Post 14649982)
Seriously I hope you can achieve your goals
I know my statement is hard, but there has been a great dewelopment in turbo, ecu and how to calculate the engine. Ill bet a case of beer on that my 22psi are closer to 500whp than your 29 :D Cheers :D |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14650028)
I know my statement is hard, but there has been a great dewelopment in turbo, ecu and how to calculate the engine.
Ill bet a case of beer on that my 22psi are closer to 500whp than your 29 :D Cheers :D |
So santa delivered this today, 350x34mm disc Next up front.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...91743a591.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...13bdf8415.jpeg |
Love that bend your knees sticker :) Ausies are so kind.
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The new summer shoes finaly got here fram Cali :)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee93008962.jpg |
How much did you pay for shipping? I have something smaller in CA and USPS wants to charge me $550 to send it here..
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14711463)
How much did you pay for shipping? I have something smaller in CA and USPS wants to charge me $550 to send it here..
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I've already shipped my boat lower unit from FL to CA..for $120.. Idiot :)
Beautiful wheels btw. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14711512)
Beautiful wheels btw. Needs some spacers, and i still don know what tires to put on.. |
Testfittet the 265/35-18 Nankang ns2-r tires, for daily driving and honning :) https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...be2767fea.jpeg |
sick wheels man. square or staggered/
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 14748308)
sick wheels man. square or staggered/
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New parts arived, Wiseco pistons and the engine block with LA Sleves.
Hoping to be done with my engine in 3 weeks. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4296d04d6d.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d10bffbe8b.jpg |
New coil setup.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a9a7ca91fb.jpg New brakedisc and late offset hub + spindle from Lart. 350*34mm disc ( 996GT2) https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...93ab6c076d.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...becb4e0357.jpg |
How do you plan to attach those front calipers, adapters or do those fit out of the box?
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14805974)
How do you plan to attach those front calipers, adapters or do those fit out of the box?
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You'll use turbo S front spindles or standard 951?
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I dont know, bougt some used from lart, with the late offset. S2 i think.
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Not sure if all late offset spindles have radial mounted calipers or not but I wonder if 951 radial mount spindles on bigger radial calipers is possible. Ideally I'd get big blacks but these are hard to get cheap nowdays and superior options like those you got are available cheaper.
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Here is the backside, easy to fabricate adapters https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...76a797ba6.jpeg |
Yup. Those are axial not radial..
M030 turbo S spindles look like this.. (picture stolen here: https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...3o-or-not.html ) Wonder if it's possible to mount axial calipers with wider holes on M030 spindles. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bcfee2b4da.jpg |
Oh, Nah Didnt bother lookin for those. Im just making new adapters, easyer And cheaper.
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14806120)
Yup. Those are axial not radial..
M030 turbo S spindles look like this.. (picture stolen here: https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...3o-or-not.html ) Wonder if it's possible to mount axial calipers with wider holes on M030 spindles. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bcfee2b4da.jpg |
M030 spindles complicate things.
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Yes, much easier to make axial:radial adapters than radial:radial
Also, don't forget you will need centering rings for those discs. |
Oil galery modyfied, 7500 rpm + next and the new IC core. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...183730448.jpeghttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...da4f56954.jpeg |
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2ab506c81.jpegWiseco meet HPO |
Finaly the oil filter relocation kit arrived! And the M22 - AN10 for the new oilcooler hoses and fittings.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...24c5cfdef0.jpg The new fuelpump that delivers 300+ lph on 6bar pressure.https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...947346e1d1.jpg |
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Day one, starting on the engine build. Measuring the cylinders, big end on the rods And gapping the rings. Planing on finish the bottom end this weekend. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...34c19d3e6.jpeghttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9f04749b1.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...956db38cc.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...db59428da.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...dee228e45.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...be8fc45aa.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...12ae73219.jpeg |
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Nice! Where did you bought that? Could use one too.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14844491)
Nice! Where did you bought that? Could use one too.
485 $ inc shipping. |
Aluminum pr0n.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14844504)
Aluminum pr0n.
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Yeah but quite expensive, I'll try my welding skills on stock piece first :)
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14847652)
Yeah but quite expensive, I'll try my welding skills on stock piece first :)
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I have twin scroll iwg EFR 7670. Not same size.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14847729)
I have twin scroll iwg EFR 7670. Not same size.
In wery interested to see your setup done :) |
I'll need to put everything more to the front also because turbo is much longer.
I'm waiting for the front calipers with which I'll have to determine rotor size and get that too. I then have more or less everything. I'ts a slow ride but not in a hurry. :) |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14847737)
I'll need to put everything more to the front also because turbo is much longer.
I'm waiting for the front calipers with which I'll have to determine rotor size and get that too. I then have more or less everything. I'ts a slow ride but not in a hurry. :) - Intercooler, endtanks, and piping. - Radiator, mounts, ducting, hoses. - Oilcooler, an welding, hoses and ducting - gearbox assembly, lsd and ratio change. late offset and bigbrakes, next winter. The crank i bought is done polished and measured, ready to be mounted this week :) |
I'll go with chargecooler in intake plenum setup and direct turbo -> TB -> chargecooler air route. Should be fun. Shoehorning it all on top of engine will be challenging.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14847750)
I'll go with chargecooler in intake plenum setup and direct turbo -> TB -> chargecooler air route. Should be fun. Shoehorning it all on top of engine will be challenging.
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It's still in parts. Will probably have to reduce runner length to get it to clear brake booster. If not I'm considering using 964T servo powered booster.
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Engine build assembly has started, same tollerance on the main bearings. stay tunes https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6c7b210ea.jpeghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...75192471c.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7108a9528.jpeg |
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So, My manual Didnt tell me to use this, but fellow rennlisters told me :) goes between the block and crank girdle. thanks guys :) https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...35fe0d053.jpeg |
What do your connecting rods weigh? I was just checking out the HPO website.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14896599)
What do your connecting rods weigh? I was just checking out the HPO website.
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Is that engine assembly lube in the bearing location on the girdle or Loctite? Just didn't see Loctite pics on the crank girdle surface.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 14897998)
Is that engine assembly lube in the bearing location on the girdle or Loctite? Just didn't see Loctite pics on the crank girdle surface.
That red stuff is «pre oil lube» |
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Looks Great!
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14896585)
So, My manual Didnt tell me to use this, but fellow rennlisters told me :) goes between the block and crank girdle. thanks guys :) If you need, I can send you my PDF copies of the service manuals. The engine is looking great BTW, I'm keen to see what kind of performance you get out of it. |
Originally Posted by 944crazy
(Post 14904160)
Which manual are you using? The proper Porsche service manual does tell you were to use the 574. It doesn't need to cover the whole girdle, just the oil channels and edges of the RMS area. The 574 also goes on the balance shaft covers.
If you need, I can send you my PDF copies of the service manuals. The engine is looking great BTW, I'm keen to see what kind of performance you get out of it. the loctite was only used Where the girdle meets the block. yes please, ealoken(at)Gmail.com i hope to se power from 3500-7000 rpm 500whp/wtq. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14904278)
yes please :) the loctite was only used Where the girdle meets the block. yes please, ealoken(at)Gmail.com i hope to se power from 3500-7000 rpm 500whp/wtq. Vol1-Engine8v: https://ufile.io/c6omn (page 61 shows girdle installation procedure) Vol6-Turbo: https://ufile.io/zu5o9 |
If it doesn't work, all manuals are here both in html and pdf. http://www.uriarte.dk/porsche944/garage/workshop.html
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Tested the new ccws and the intake, all clearence is good. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...34fa37cb1.jpeghttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0e7eb5bbe.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...978ff0c89.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0d9e3794c.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a37b8b2c2.jpeg |
What headlights are those?
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Originally Posted by Robert_325i
(Post 14908988)
What headlights are those?
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Working on the new Intercooler / radiator setup. Needs to lock «stock». https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3060122bb.jpeghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0eb564b2d.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7be532dc9.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6c23afe54.jpeg |
Is that fan shroud a good idea...?
Looks like there will be a wall of air in front of the bumper inlet at speed...? T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14926084)
Is that fan shroud a good idea...?
Looks like there will be a wall of air in front of the bumper inlet at speed...? T |
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 14926521)
we always make them like this, but it’s not done yet, Will have some air thru mods also, stay tuned :) But I waited 6 months to be enlightened on a promised super top secret engine oiling mod that turned out to be a dud.....:D BTW, nice wheel. I like a pronounced rounded notch right where your two thumbs rest above the top spokes, so not my preference, but hey, it aint my car...:cheers: T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 14937985)
Ok, I will stay tuned.
But I waited 6 months to be enlightened on a promised super top secret engine oiling mod that turned out to be a dud.....:D BTW, nice wheel. I like a pronounced rounded notch right where your two thumbs rest above the top spokes, so not my preference, but hey, it aint my car...:cheers: T https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7fd6f6c72.jpeg |
Uh huh....., I saw it.
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Why did you block of the rest of the cooler, or what is your theory for it ?
If the fans are on they creating an air stream that pulls air through the hole cooler ?, now it can only pass through the fan itself ?! |
Blocking of like this forces the air thru 100% of the radiator when they are running. Increasing the cooling %. |
You want as much cooling as possible without fans. Fans are only for when car is stationary for too long. I'd loose the cover or install flaps.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14959445)
You want as much cooling as possible without fans. Fans are only for when car is stationary for too long. I'd loose the cover.
Loosing the cover will reduce the cooling efficient. We alwaysbuild the radiators cooling like this And they works fine. |
Loosing the cover will allow radiator to work properly. It will only reduce force cooling when fans kick in. That should only happen in traffic jams, most of the time air you travel trough is much more powerful coolant than what that fan can move.
If you really want powerful cooling get a multi pass radiator. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14959460)
Loosing the cover will allow radiator to work properly. It will only reduce force cooling when fans kick in. That should only happen in traffic jams, most of the time air you travel trough is much more powerfull coolant than what that fan can move.
Spal fans spins Nice on airflow letting the air to go thru without engaging. So dont worry ;) |
Massive turbulence imo.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14959485)
Massive turbulence imo.
https://www.mishimoto.com/engineerin...l-fabrication/ |
His design is also bad but better, he doesn't have 50% of radiator covered with shroud. With design you made, you only use about 50% of radiator surface when fans are off (which should be most of the time). So half of that massive cooler is doing nothing but sitting there.
However It will probably work ok either way because cooler appears to be overkill. Great way to test this kind of system is blast it with water or pressure washer. If water which is like air also fluid passes with ease and deflect in a way you want, you did a good job, if it hits flat surface behind radiator it fails to rapidly move trough it and thus doesn't cool at all. If nothing else, I would add flaps like these: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...66605048bc.jpg |
I don`t agree, the front is air sealed, all the air going in, must go thru the coolers.
So, the entire radiator is used. On all the cars we have done it like this, we never see engine temp problems. But thanks for the advice. Im more curious on my self made intercooler.. had to learn how to Mig weld aluminium.. |
Watch out for slag getting inside. Engine wouldn't appreciate it :)
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 14960866)
Watch out for slag getting inside. Engine wouldn't appreciate it :)
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Been silent here for a while, i have a injured right elbow that prohibit’s me from any lifting or working. But, i have new parts coming in, latest add is KW3 direct from a friend that works for KW. And some other parts from Ian at 944online. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...381a8c644.jpeg Big brake kit is also in the making, 996GT2 discs And 996 Tt calipers. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3f71b9425.jpeg |
996 Twin turbo calipers With 996 GT2 350mm discs fitted to late offset spindels. Mhttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...07b43df0b.jpeghttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c6770c11d.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...70c38e2fc.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...df5b8bb06.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a86d619cf.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5ac31d5ce.jpeg |
Probably not a good idea to clamp that spindle pinch bore in a vise without a spacer.
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New intercooler piping clamps from Alphaloc https://vtsracing.bigcartel.com/prod...s-alphaloc-2-5 https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bd4e9b333.jpeg |
And this arrived yesterday. Asembly starting this week. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...65a950678.jpeg |
Nice progress, can't wait to see end result.
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 15088812)
Nice progress, can't wait to see end result.
thanks, hoping to dyno in July. |
Kw3 and 996gt discs and 996TT calipers mounted https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9c3be21fa.jpeghttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...33cf30fa8.jpeg |
Transmission done rebuild, new bearings, re shimmed and a Quaife diff.
Cant wait to test this one. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0710f84926.jpg |
Very nice toys! I'd love that tranny.
This cars going to be insane! |
Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15093387)
Very nice toys! I'd love that tranny.
This cars going to be insane! I hope so :) slowly getting there, but i have to say, without all the help from my friends, i would never complete the build. |
So they totally assembled your transmission, complete with shifter mechanism, , reverse light switch and even inserted mount bolts ready for install and then realized you need to split the gear cluster from the diff housing to install the ring gear/diff....?
This doesn't make any sense at all. T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 15093513)
So they totally assembled your transmission, complete with shifter mechanism, , reverse light switch and even inserted mount bolts ready for install and then realized you need to split the gear cluster from the diff housing to install the ring gear/diff....?
This doesn't make any sense at all. T Yes, i delivered one S2 Gb and one 951 in parts, was some extra job for him. But the gearbox is 100% done now. |
Gearbox cooling done. 2x coolers, 0.8L more oil than oem. going to use omega 690w 75w-90 https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c95ebb694.jpeghttps://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...87d81327e.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f817ffc73.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...58dc2f883.jpeg |
Are the late offset spindles the same as the standard 968. If so could I have a diagram of the brackets you have made because I am doing the same brake build for my car. Also does anybody know if the 996 turbo calipers have better stopping power than the big reds/ blacks from the 993 tt 928 gts. Great build thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by Northern porker
(Post 15192769)
Are the late offset spindles the same as the standard 968. If so could I have a diagram of the brackets you have made because I am doing the same brake build for my car. Also does anybody know if the 996 turbo calipers have better stopping power than the big reds/ blacks from the 993 tt 928 gts. Great build thanks in advance. Are you also running 350mm disc? |
Yes. |
I have also just bought the KW v3 shocks so am interested how you find them. Are you changing any of the bushes on suspension as well. Mo30 roll bars? |
Originally Posted by Northern porker
(Post 15193870)
I have also just bought the KW v3 shocks so am interested how you find them. Are you changing any of the bushes on suspension as well. Mo30 roll bars? I bough some motorsport late offset arms, new brushings, i already have a big swaybar. The KW`s mounted perfect on the late offset spindles. |
Do you have a drawing of the bracket/spacers you made it would save me a lot of time. thanks |
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HOT SEX E!! Very nice. Rocking 4 point harnesses? I'd like those for daily driving.
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15309697)
HOT SEX E!! Very nice. Rocking 4 point harnesses? I'd like those for daily driving.
ill keep the 3 point also. |
Nice progress...., you must be getting close now..?
Curious, are you using the original balance shaft turbo lube feed...? I made a similar delete solution 15 years ago but I kept the oil feed groove on Ver. 1 using a cut section of a stock shaft for feed passage and a cross drilled hole on Ver. 2 on a lathed billet piece. On the fronts, I just used the 1st few inches chopped off a stock shaft with a spacer sleeve and bolt. Front only has to seal crankcase pressure since there's no oil delivered there once you interrupt feed from the bearing by cutting the shafts. Anyways...., carry on...:biggulp: T |
spoiler ordered from sportswagen Zürich https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...01a8495a7.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c870d57ca.jpeg |
I deleted my balance shafts also but tapped the oil feed holes & installed bolts.
I love that spoiler. Expensive I imagine. |
sorry for no update in a long time, got a headbolt issue when assembling the engine where one bolt got in a bad mood. This is now sorted, hoping to install the engine in april. just need to finish the house renovation project. Been working all days in 4 months. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...47c487973.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...27fe60dab.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fdda1f259.jpeg |
Awesome man, nice to hear.
I was gonna search your name just a couple days ago to bump your old thread and ask why you hadn't updated. T |
Originally Posted by 951and944S
(Post 15700803)
Awesome man, nice to hear.
I was gonna search your name just a couple days ago to bump your old thread and ask why you hadn't updated. T Been some crazy last 6 months. Selling two appartments, buying the house, renovation madness! |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15700828)
Thanks :)
Been some crazy last 6 months. Selling two appartments, buying the house, renovation madness! Already bought everything I can buy ahead of time. When I pull the trigger, I suspect I'll disappear from here for while. Hey wait, this could be an opportunity...., anybody want to donate to speed up my absence....:roflmao: T |
What calipers are those? I need to buy a set for my build.
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Originally Posted by Robert_325i
(Post 15714246)
What calipers are those? I need to buy a set for my build.
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15720597)
996TT calipers and GT2 350mm disc :)
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6d4c35cc6.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f5db78e3d.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...461b8f5c0.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0700cd2df.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bac593db7.jpeg The house project has been finished, so i finaly got to mount the new sparco seats and Schroth 4pt Harness. I also ordered a new wing from Holland :) |
Look BITCHEN brother. :rockon:The house & the car! Where's you'd get the wing from Holland? Those seat belts are what I wish I had instead of 6 points (for street). Also what lap belt mounts are you using & seat mounts are you using?
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15759256)
Look BITCHEN brother. :rockon:The house & the car! Where's you'd get the wing from Holland? Those seat belts are what I wish I had instead of 6 points (for street). Also what lap belt mounts are you using & seat mounts are you using?
Just find the Porsche 944 comunity on Facebook, order there :) 850 euro + shipping. The belt is mounted in the rollcage and Seat brackets. |
So, the Carbon 968rs wing arrived!
So freeekin awesome!! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c9b2f939b.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cb86e13a9.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...dea6b52b7.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f0c0680e3.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c68b028d9.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5210ed5bb.jpeg |
While the engine is getting ready, some parts needed cleaning.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d3114c5a8.jpeg |
Clearly you will need these to go with that gorgeous wing! https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...atch-trim.html
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Originally Posted by jsheiry
(Post 15762393)
Clearly you will need these to go with that gorgeous wing! https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...atch-trim.html
Max used the pieces off a 968 my son was racing as the models for the molds. We had to rush the pieces back on the night before a race a couple months ago... :roflmao: The stuff his source makes is good quality. T |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15761136)
So, the Carbon 968rs wing arrived!
So freeekin awesome!! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c9b2f939b.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cb86e13a9.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...dea6b52b7.jpeg |
Originally Posted by jsheiry
(Post 15762393)
Clearly you will need these to go with that gorgeous wing! https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...atch-trim.html
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Where did wing come from again and how long did you wait?
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 15763303)
Where did wing come from again and how long did you wait?
Came from Holland. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2078...action_generic Cheers I also have a wing from sportswagen zurich, it was no good and tok 6 mnths.. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15761808)
While the engine is getting ready, some parts needed cleaning.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d3114c5a8.jpeg Is that your type 3 (wagon) in the background? Looks sweet!! |
Originally Posted by mdj577
(Post 15767114)
Is that your type 3 (wagon) in the background? Looks sweet!!
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E, if you ever have time, please post photos of the seat belt mounts.
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15768341)
E, if you ever have time, please post photos of the seat belt mounts.
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Oil filter relocation kit I am assuming....without going back to look through the thread history :)
First time I have seen a pic of that on an oil filter housing. |
Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 15774654)
Oil filter relocation kit I am assuming....without going back to look through the thread history :)
First time I have seen a pic of that on an oil filter housing. |
Faen!! (Google translate)
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It's fixable at least :)
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Nice progress. What brand are those bolts?
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a6e81ef98.jpeg
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 15782443)
Nice progress. What brand are those bolts?
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Holy thread resurrections Batman, I was looking to see what folks have done with wings as I came across this Schnitzer on the market. I was looking for something else. Now the piece I’m looking at is a tad more rough and missing the uprights also but a bit of fabricating hasn’t held me back before so....
What do you think? Apparently these thing generate good down force. Does it have potential for the monster. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...09a9c0aad.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...af2609b0d1.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1dbd933c9.jpeg |
Originally Posted by JimV8
(Post 15782517)
Holy thread resurrections Batman, I was looking to see what folks have done with wings as I came across this Schnitzer on the market. I was looking for something else. Now the piece I’m looking at is a tad more rough and missing the uprights also but a bit of fabricating hasn’t held me back before so....
What do you think? Apparently these thing generate good down force. Does it have potential for the monster. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...09a9c0aad.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...af2609b0d1.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1dbd933c9.jpeg Honestly, that is a no super no-go.. |
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Timesert worked perfect!
Got new headers with egt sensors also, for dyno use. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9b15df475.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d9c68295b.jpeg |
I am assuming the sleeve you made was a guide to drill the Time-Sert straight.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
(Post 15790505)
I am assuming the sleeve you made was a guide to drill the Time-Sert straight.
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Looking good! What role does EGT Pyrometer play when tuning?
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15805953)
Looking good! What role does EGT Pyrometer play when tuning?
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15806096)
to see that all cylinders are in the same area regarding temp. If one cyl is of by 50-100 deg something is wrong on the fuel/ignition side.
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 15806258)
Oh that makes sense. In the past I though individual sensors on the header primary tubes were o2 sensors for ITBs, is this also possible?
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Some update on the ducting and cooling on the car.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...52f82e374.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d73ee36d6.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a5cd909fd.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c070a0dc7.jpeg |
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Engine is almoste ready to go in.
Timing done. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...709cb77de.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...348fe8517.jpeg |
Engine saturday.
Hoping to Get it in the car before june. need to make a new Downpipe and som chargepipes. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5f2cf7e3e.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...463a5e53f.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...73601038d.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e0456247d.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a2c71791d.jpeg |
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Awesome progress. Congrats!!
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3" intercooler pipes in the making and the first downpipe is done.
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Beautiful welds!
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Originally Posted by Chapman951
(Post 15871976)
Beautiful welds!
Here Erik, now it has the internet colours. |
Looking great.
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So the new adjustable camgear arrived, so stoked over the details and quality.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...22bc7d59e.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...28587b298.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d92342bf8.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4480e24ba.jpeg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 15974283)
So the new adjustable camgear arrived, so stoked over the details and quality.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...22bc7d59e.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...28587b298.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d92342bf8.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4480e24ba.jpeg |
Update, new camgear, oilfilter housing, cooler lines and oil cooler.
im also a mechanic on the Gatebil Taxies, we have three E60M5’s, running over 1000 persons each year. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8b880c3ee.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e0a339be2.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8ae734661.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...75035894d.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...565d7fa9e.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7b35cbe95.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5e1e87b98.jpeg |
Oilfilter house placed, and oil lines done.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...39f613dce.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7f6a13541.jpeg |
Installed the new anti rollbar mounts from LR today.
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New washerfluid reservoir and the coilpack is in place.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0e497b562.jpeg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16045029)
New washerfluid reservoir and the coilpack is in place.
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Originally Posted by Chapman951
(Post 16046242)
What is the washer fluid reservoir from?
Wery like this one. https://www.all4honda.com/en/h-gear-...-kit-universal |
Perfect thank you
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16005458)
Installed the new anti rollbar mounts from LR today.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3d26ae197.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...208de6227.jpeg |
Originally Posted by 968to986
(Post 16047641)
Those KWs look the business. What size sway bar are you running with the LR mounts?
Thanks, they are 30mm. |
Crossover and 3" downpipe done, it now takes 10 minutes to take of the exhaust vs 2hrs oem.
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New brakepads EBC orange, fluid and brakelines from EBC.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...03ebb771f.jpeg |
Exhaust done, just some wrapping left.
huge thanks to my buddies that are helping me. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9a8045f4a.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d788589f7.jpeg |
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Geezus, that looks really amazing!!
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 16092579)
Geezus, that looks really amazing!!
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New gearbox project in house, Audi s2 6speed.
will start on this after the car is done now for winter. Hoping to dyno in October. 4.11 final ratio 1st 3.50 2nd 1.89 3rd 1.32 4th 1.03 5th 0.86 6th 0.71 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...df78936fd.jpeg |
Keep us updated on that transmission. It's obviously a bit longer than stock, which shouldn't be a problem for cars with the spare tire well cut out. What about the rest of the case? pretty well bolt on?
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Originally Posted by JustinL
(Post 16112681)
Keep us updated on that transmission. It's obviously a bit longer than stock, which shouldn't be a problem for cars with the spare tire well cut out. What about the rest of the case? pretty well bolt on?
I need to fabricate some parts. New driveshats Gear link Coupler gearbox - torquetube axle. |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16114236)
It's a bit longer, but the bolt pattern is bolt on to the torque tube.
I need to fabricate some parts. New driveshats Gear link Coupler gearbox - torquetube axle. |
Question 1:
What did you do to make it a 10minute installation/removal verses the 2hour OEM? Was a 3 piece cross over used? Question 2: Will the new gear box let you reach 200mph? |
Due to a big house renovation the 951 has not got the attention it deserves, when adding upp my no sleep over the oem ignition reading on the flywheel i was on the look for a solution.
DRS Development came up with an adapter wich includes an ATI damper ( good bye balanceshafts ) and a 60-2 trigger wheel. Adding one camsensor, it`s now a solution my tuner likes. Might be starting this thing before xmas.. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c8c55dab4c.jpg |
Why didn't you use just an "off the shelf Clewitt?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...17c6a3b4c8.jpg |
So om the waiting game for parts, i starten om refurbishing the ccw wheels.
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Originally Posted by Chapman951
(Post 16124590)
Question 1:
What did you do to make it a 10minute installation/removal verses the 2hour OEM? Was a 3 piece cross over used? Question 2: Will the new gear box let you reach 200mph? V-band inn and out of the turbo also helps alot. It will in theory do 310 km/h on 6900 rpm. |
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Tested the CCWs with new tires.
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Looks great! That’s an aggressive fitment on the front. Love the Nantangs. I looked for those in the US and couldn’t find them.
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Nankangs, that is. Maybe I couldn’t find them because I didn’t spell them right!
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Goodies mounted from DRS Developement
ATI damper, billet parts. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c49b9e8a20.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...21ef1a796d.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ce38b699f3.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6cf6d5d94d.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3fa13c1543.jpg |
New camber plates mounted.
new trigger system is ready, starting to se the end of this build now, start up and dyno this summer. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5acd135774.jpg |
Sexy!
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Realy closing in om the build, might start her in june/july.
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Riktigt snygg bil👏
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16644057)
New camber plates mounted.
new trigger system is ready, starting to se the end of this build now, start up and dyno this summer. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5acd135774.jpg Looks great. I have the standard KW V3's. Can I just add those adjustable plates to them, or are those coil-overs different than the standard V3's? |
Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
(Post 16700011)
Looks great. I have the standard KW V3's. Can I just add those adjustable plates to them, or are those coil-overs different than the standard V3's?
https://www.kwsuspensions.net/produc...ounts/19000754 |
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The 951 is slowly getting together. pro tip, dont renovate a house while building a car.. 😁 |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16848526)
dont renovate a house while building a car.. 😁
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 16848561)
Or - don't try to build a car while building a house. :)
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Water filled, injectors and hoses mounted..
We are getting closer to start up. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3e6da6403d.jpg |
So, huge oil leak at the front... Nummer.. |
Ok, so Murphy called.
Need a new piston, new god bedring, weld and deck the head. New Cometic headgasket. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c664c7292d.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...eb1eec9965.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aadb7fc66f.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c58cef243b.jpg |
Ouch
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Sorry to see that! Was there a bolt in the combustion chamber? I wonder if that piston could be cleaned up and reused...
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Originally Posted by 968to986
(Post 16937327)
Sorry to see that! Was there a bolt in the combustion chamber? I wonder if that piston could be cleaned up and reused...
I ordered new pistons. Wiseco ONLY sell kits. So i bought 5pc. Head is welded, machining it Next week. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ce6209052.jpg |
Looks like the intake valve took a beating as well? :crying: Sorry to see, we have all been there in this (expensive) hobby....
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Originally Posted by Alcaid
(Post 16940361)
Looks like the intake valve took a beating as well? :crying: Sorry to see, we have all been there in this (expensive) hobby....
Yeah, and wiseco didn`t sell one piston, so i bought 5. Anyone need a set for sleeved engine? 8:1 compression. |
Head just got back from my friend.
Now, we wait on some parts from Wiseco, Cometic and ARP.. https://scontent.fosl3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...53&oe=5FA3B111 https://scontent.fosl3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...92&oe=5FA6C614 https://scontent.fosl3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...72&oe=5FA5AAF6 |
So the head is back after Welding and decking.
oil pump is ported, hoping it will deliver pressure to 7000rpm. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8e7455d0a4.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...97aacd0dac.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...24c73e63d7.jpg |
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So, the engine is in peaces, cylinders need a hone, new bearings and a new piston.
#failureisalwaysanoption Hope.to enjoy this car in 2021. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f87498f363.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e51c39c036.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...35d6273d15.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bbe2280507.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c2c7a2e899.jpg |
Oh dear. I'm very sorry. It could happen to anyone.
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Dude, you can rebuild...
Hopefully for a bit less than 6 mil. |
Hang in there. You’ve done so much amazing work on this project, you have to see it to the end to experience it’s full potential!
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Originally Posted by 968to986
(Post 17156708)
Hang in there. You’ve done so much amazing work on this project, you have to see it to the end to experience it’s full potential!
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Originally Posted by SeaCay
(Post 17156090)
im 40k+ in this car :O |
What was the reason for failure?
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Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 17157197)
What was the reason for failure?
Then the weather came and messed with my steel sleeves.. |
Ouch.. That really sucks.
Few turns of flexhone should bring the cylinders back in no time though. |
Originally Posted by Voith
(Post 17157240)
Ouch.. That really sucks.
Few turns of flexhone should bring the cylinders back in no time though. |
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Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 16972475)
oil pump is ported, hoping it will deliver pressure to 7000rpm.
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Originally Posted by Noahs944
(Post 17299852)
I understand you are looking to increase oil pressure near red-line (above factory spec) by somehow porting the pump. Would you explain a bit more on this, I'm very interested on the modification and philosophy!
Making it easyer for the pump to get the oil in. |
So, the threads holding the oilpickup went ****.
the bottom end is in the Block again. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bea1cc2b96.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e574f85787.jpg |
Erik, this blows, can you elaborate on what led to the failure of the threads? Does this engine have BS's installed? Are you using solid or semisolid motor mounts? I am installing modded oil pickup tube and considering further gussets to help prevent any pickup tube related failures this weekend.
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
(Post 17340456)
Erik, this blows, can you elaborate on what led to the failure of the threads? Does this engine have BS's installed? Are you using solid or semisolid motor mounts? I am installing modded oil pickup tube and considering further gussets to help prevent any pickup tube related failures this weekend.
Im running OEM mounts. |
Sorry, that sucks! Thanks for the reply.
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LS swap?
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Originally Posted by Chapman951
(Post 17397568)
LS swap?
The engine is coming together again. But the big house renovation takes all my time. |
Arp - 100ft
cometic So, a huge step forward. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...70c4d5a547.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72550bdb29.jpg |
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Looks like you got the KW's installed too.
Progress. :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by mj951
(Post 17460242)
Looks like you got the KW's installed too.
Progress. :thumbup: |
Engine is soon ready to go back in this old Girl.
Also got some new OZ racing wheels. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...462368ea71.jpg |
Originally Posted by ealoken
(Post 17516150)
Engine is soon ready to go back in this old Girl.
Also got some new OZ racing wheels. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...462368ea71.jpg |
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