Horrible experience with Broadfoot racing
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I recently had Albert Broadfoot go through my 1986 951 from front to back. I wasn't in a hurry as this is a play car for me, so time wasn't an issue. I was very happy with the communication and quality of workmanship. Texting is a way of life nowadays, and I have no issue with a vendor using it to keep me up to date on my project.
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You're best off starting with a new tune, it sounds like it was more of a starting point than anything. Download the tuning software from elctromotive and post what hardware, bore x stroke, fuel type, injector size, and any other relevant details. There are tons of speed-density maps for modified 951s and you should be able to recreate a "starting point" easily with online advice. Or pay a tuner ~$500 to dial it in, that's what I was quoted at one point for a VE table and spark advance map. Everything else is tuning you do on the road versus the dyno for the most part.
edit: Or better yet, once you get the software (usually it's free) and are able to connect to the ECU, it should have a way to auto-tune your VE table. If you have knock detection sometimes you can also auto-tune that. Usually works reasonably well once you tell it target AFRs. Again tons of info posted online.
edit: Or better yet, once you get the software (usually it's free) and are able to connect to the ECU, it should have a way to auto-tune your VE table. If you have knock detection sometimes you can also auto-tune that. Usually works reasonably well once you tell it target AFRs. Again tons of info posted online.
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Originally Posted by odonnell
You're best off starting with a new tune, it sounds like it was more of a starting point than anything. Download the tuning software from Motec and post what hardware, bore x stroke, fuel type, injector size, and any other relevant details. There are tons of speed-density maps for modified 951s and you should be able to recreate a "starting point" easily with online advice. Or pay a tuner ~$500 to dial it in, that's what I was quoted at one point for a VE table and spark advance map. Everything else is tuning you do on the road versus the dyno for the most part.
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Don't throw good money at bad in this case. The tune sounds like a hack job....do you really want to use it as a basis? You can blow a motor in a matter of seconds if it's not done right. $500 isn't s**t for this.
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Originally Posted by odonnell
Don't throw good money at bad in this case. The tune sounds like a hack job....do you really want to use it as a basis? You can blow a motor in a matter of seconds if it's not done right. $500 isn't s**t for this.
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I don't know how law is based in the states, but here selling something and not providing is called fraud. I don't know his side of the story but if you paid for bin file he has to provide it else go to police and file charges.
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Marc Swanson at EFI Express in Lee, NH is the best tuner I know. Might be a bit of a haul for you, but he's a standalone guru. He is mostly an Audi guy, but has worked on pretty much everything including some 951's.
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket
Doesn't Chris White A) live in NY and B) know Electromotive really well?
Wasn't his build, but maybe he'd be willing to tune it for the right fee.
Wasn't his build, but maybe he'd be willing to tune it for the right fee.
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so sad.
#43
Playing devils advocate
if you are suing him, why would he cooperate and send the bin file.... if that file can only be used against him in court?
Also if you are running lean as your fathers post above indicated why would you put the car on a dyno again (stated in post #36)
if you are suing him, why would he cooperate and send the bin file.... if that file can only be used against him in court?
Also if you are running lean as your fathers post above indicated why would you put the car on a dyno again (stated in post #36)
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Originally Posted by carlege
Playing devils advocate
if you are suing him, why would he cooperate and send the bin file.... if that file can only be used against him in court?
Also if you are running lean as your fathers post above indicated why would you put the car on a dyno again (stated in post #36)
if you are suing him, why would he cooperate and send the bin file.... if that file can only be used against him in court?
Also if you are running lean as your fathers post above indicated why would you put the car on a dyno again (stated in post #36)
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I'm a little confised.
Broadfoot tuned it a second time. and then you had it shipped to another company who modified the Broadfoot tune and then shipped it to you. Is that the correct order of steps?
Did you ever have the car with the second Broadfoot tune?
If the second shop retuned it, how do you know how the Broadfoot tune was actually running? You have the claims of the second shop but it is their tune that is running poorly.
Am I missing something here or do I have the details mixed up?
Broadfoot tuned it a second time. and then you had it shipped to another company who modified the Broadfoot tune and then shipped it to you. Is that the correct order of steps?
Did you ever have the car with the second Broadfoot tune?
If the second shop retuned it, how do you know how the Broadfoot tune was actually running? You have the claims of the second shop but it is their tune that is running poorly.
Am I missing something here or do I have the details mixed up?