Help Me Identify These Pistons
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#4
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Did you actually tear it down Shawn? Assuming you would have seen the damage and I'd imagine been able to tell it was Nikasil surfaced. How long was the motor together for? Doesn't look very long. Who built / supplied it?
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Motor was built in the ATL at a local Porsche shop. Motor ran for 5 minutes. Pretty much a disaster IMO. Definitely Nikasil. The guy who built the motor has since passed away.
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Wow...quite a story! Would love to know a bit more about it if you find out? Cause of failure etc.
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http://www.diamondracing.net/
Might be worth contacting the company and see what history they have for this build.
Find out why it failed so quickly. Were the pistons/rings treated to run in Nikasil?
Might be worth contacting the company and see what history they have for this build.
Find out why it failed so quickly. Were the pistons/rings treated to run in Nikasil?
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If it is the same material piston as what I googled but just a different design
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/diamo...-040-bore.html
The one on the link above shows 2618 material....going by Diamonds explanation of 2618 compared to 4032 you need more piston wall room for the 2618 compared to their 4032.
http://www.diamondracing.net/faq/ see cut and paste below
What material are your pistons made from?
We use two different materials, 2618 & 4032. 2618 is used in most of our severe duty / power adder applications. It requires slightly more piston to wall clearance and can stand up to the abuse of a power adder. 4032 is used for applications that are more on the mild side. 4032 has less of a expansion rate which allows us to use it with tighter piston to wall clearances. This is great for direct replacement factory pistons. Call one of our tech's and they will let you know which material is good for your application.
So maybe pistons are 2618 and there was not enough room for expansion?
Or I could be totally out in left field
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/diamo...-040-bore.html
The one on the link above shows 2618 material....going by Diamonds explanation of 2618 compared to 4032 you need more piston wall room for the 2618 compared to their 4032.
http://www.diamondracing.net/faq/ see cut and paste below
What material are your pistons made from?
We use two different materials, 2618 & 4032. 2618 is used in most of our severe duty / power adder applications. It requires slightly more piston to wall clearance and can stand up to the abuse of a power adder. 4032 is used for applications that are more on the mild side. 4032 has less of a expansion rate which allows us to use it with tighter piston to wall clearances. This is great for direct replacement factory pistons. Call one of our tech's and they will let you know which material is good for your application.
So maybe pistons are 2618 and there was not enough room for expansion?
Or I could be totally out in left field
http://www.diamondracing.net/
Might be worth contacting the company and see what history they have for this build.
Find out why it failed so quickly. Were the pistons/rings treated to run in Nikasil?
Might be worth contacting the company and see what history they have for this build.
Find out why it failed so quickly. Were the pistons/rings treated to run in Nikasil?
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If it is the same material piston as what I googled but just a different design
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/diamo...-040-bore.html
The one on the link above shows 2618 material....going by Diamonds explanation of 2618 compared to 4032 you need more piston wall room for the 2618 compared to their 4032.
http://www.diamondracing.net/faq/ see cut and paste below
What material are your pistons made from?
We use two different materials, 2618 & 4032. 2618 is used in most of our severe duty / power adder applications. It requires slightly more piston to wall clearance and can stand up to the abuse of a power adder. 4032 is used for applications that are more on the mild side. 4032 has less of a expansion rate which allows us to use it with tighter piston to wall clearances. This is great for direct replacement factory pistons. Call one of our tech's and they will let you know which material is good for your application.
So maybe pistons are 2618 and there was not enough room for expansion?
Or I could be totally out in left field
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/diamo...-040-bore.html
The one on the link above shows 2618 material....going by Diamonds explanation of 2618 compared to 4032 you need more piston wall room for the 2618 compared to their 4032.
http://www.diamondracing.net/faq/ see cut and paste below
What material are your pistons made from?
We use two different materials, 2618 & 4032. 2618 is used in most of our severe duty / power adder applications. It requires slightly more piston to wall clearance and can stand up to the abuse of a power adder. 4032 is used for applications that are more on the mild side. 4032 has less of a expansion rate which allows us to use it with tighter piston to wall clearances. This is great for direct replacement factory pistons. Call one of our tech's and they will let you know which material is good for your application.
So maybe pistons are 2618 and there was not enough room for expansion?
Or I could be totally out in left field
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The forging is intended for a Ford - they just used that forging for what you have. The dish is typical of 2V turbo. Looks like someone also had them lighten the underside. If you're going to use them you'd better check the crown thickness to ensure there's plenty of meat.