Tin behind batwing
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Tin behind batwing
Hi folks,
Has anyone designed a single piece that goes behind the batwing that allows easier oil changes, better air flow etc?
Wanted to ask prior to having one designed/fabricated. I'd even consider a better batwing/rear combination.
Thanks guys!
George
Has anyone designed a single piece that goes behind the batwing that allows easier oil changes, better air flow etc?
Wanted to ask prior to having one designed/fabricated. I'd even consider a better batwing/rear combination.
Thanks guys!
George
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Not the batwing, but the metal piece that attaches to the batwing and between the sides of the oil sump. Many, if not most 951's don't have these anymore. Here's a picture of the factory metal piece, and a picture of something made for a 951. I'm more interested in similar air flow as factory if we design single batwing/tray piece.
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I like that batwing. saving that file.
Funny you mentioned it though, i did a service on mums car the other day. all there was, was a hole for the sump plug. Enough room to remove it and drain the oil. (2011 Mazda 3)
Unless you have something like the stock one and have it modified for a access area with 4 bolts holding a plate to cover it.
Funny you mentioned it though, i did a service on mums car the other day. all there was, was a hole for the sump plug. Enough room to remove it and drain the oil. (2011 Mazda 3)
Unless you have something like the stock one and have it modified for a access area with 4 bolts holding a plate to cover it.
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Not the batwing, but the metal piece that attaches to the batwing and between the sides of the oil sump. Many, if not most 951's don't have these anymore. Here's a picture of the factory metal piece, and a picture of something made for a 951. I'm more interested in similar air flow as factory if we design single batwing/tray piece.
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Hey Tom,
The goal was attempting to, "One Up" the original design towards easier oil changes, and not removing the belly pan every time I change the oil. I've decided to keep the stock tin, with an added opening for easier oil changes on the belly pan. Hinged piece with a spring, using the air flow designed from Stuttgart.
The goal was attempting to, "One Up" the original design towards easier oil changes, and not removing the belly pan every time I change the oil. I've decided to keep the stock tin, with an added opening for easier oil changes on the belly pan. Hinged piece with a spring, using the air flow designed from Stuttgart.
The factory attachment points for the bat wing make it more of a pain to remove than the belly-pans, so not sure this would speed up removal unless you altered how it attaches? Or am I missing your goal here? (What is your goal here?) Also, for what it's worth, the front pan isn't metal. It's a black fiberglassy plastic -- to use the technical terminology
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I'd just remove those pans all together. most 944s are pan less now from someone along the way doing just that. I'd say from all the people driving without them that they don't make any significant cooling changes and if anything probably block hot air from escaping. Plastic doesn't really offer much protection from any significant debree as it cracks on impact, another reason why they got removed, they broke. The tin portion offers a little more protection but it also creates an annoyance and its holding that escaping heat from the crossover in the engine bay and toward the the shifter / torque tunnel. Probably adding heat to the cabin. Just my thoughts. To each their own
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From: In the garage trying to keep boost down
i have a hard time keeping my oil temps up. I'm not running the tin or that plastic piece.
The under tray only helps to cool when the car is moving not when is stationary.
The under tray only helps to cool when the car is moving not when is stationary.
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I run all of my undertray bits, the engine one does keep crap from jamming up in between the radiator and motor and protects the accessory belts. I keep the batwing because the car doesn't look right without it to me. I was considering adding the rear tin tray the Turbos got but that the S2 did not.
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Just a thought.
The Turbo Cup cars only had the batwing nothing else. So I guess Porsche didnt think it was necessary to use the other parts to keep temps down.
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Peder
The Turbo Cup cars only had the batwing nothing else. So I guess Porsche didnt think it was necessary to use the other parts to keep temps down.
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Peder