944 vs gt86
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It was a DE, there is no "competing." And how much track time do you have? Not a statement made by just about any experienced folks I've ever run across.
And again, since I'm guessing you missed it, his car is putting down almost 200 at the wheels. So it is making more power than stock S2's or non-S turbos.
And again, since I'm guessing you missed it, his car is putting down almost 200 at the wheels. So it is making more power than stock S2's or non-S turbos.
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Here's Charles Espenlaub driving a friend's BRZ at Sebring and cranking a 2:39 out of it. Completely stock motor, double-adjustable coilovers, and 215/45/17 Nitto NT-01 R-compound tires.
He loved the car, couldn't believe how well it drove and handled, and how it was just a point and shoot car.
Another n/a car at Road Atlanta setting the winning time and new class lap record of 1:43.92 in Enthusiast RWD at Global Time Attack. Basically just coilovers, tune, and sticky street tires.
Lastly here's a nice showcase of what the platform is capable of as a fully prepared race car..... with boost. 1:30.5 at Road Atlanta with 378hp from a supercharged 2 liter FA20
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For comparison, the Road Atlanta C-class record, which is where a 944S would be, is 1:43.69. If you pointed a gun at me and asked what the closest 944 series car to the GT86 would be, I'd pick that. A little more torque, a little less horsepower, similar weight. But these are race cars with Motons, Hoosiers, and the works.
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Found this for reference. hope the link works...it works on my end.
http://www.davenportmotorsports.com/galleries/152
http://www.davenportmotorsports.com/galleries/152
There are a dozen 500+whp turbo 86's out there that can run those numbers somewhat reliably on the street with stock internals but very few ever see the track and when they do they inevitably have overheating issues due to front mount turbos and manifolds melting fan shrouds and the small oem radiator not being able to keep up. Most go with vented hoods, bigger aftermarket rads and engine oil coolers to deal with the heat, but it's still an issue that every front mount turbo car has.
The Rotrex supercharger kits seem to be the best of both worlds, offering a nice linear boost in power/torque with excellent transient response and ultra reliable, near silent operation with much cooler intake temps on track without needing extensive supplemental cooling modifications. They are also CARB legal, which is nice.
https://jacksonracing.com/jackson-ra...stem-released/
I've had my eye on the JR kit for a while. Will probably end up with one eventually.