16v head/cam gurus please help
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16v head/cam gurus please help
How much reduction in base circle can the stock lifter handle before you need make additional changes in the head setup? is 30 thou ok?
thanks Jim
thanks Jim
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There might be opinions but you want an answer. Not that many on here that have physically done this.
Someone will turn up.
Someone will turn up.
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I could not give you a definitive answer on the 16 valve configuration.
But on an 8 valve, the stock lift is 0.474". Jon Milledge made me a cam with 0.503" by reducing base circle and he said the lifters will take up the slack (but not too much more). So, that's almost 30 thou.
However, on a 16 valver, there's less lift to work with so 30 thou would be a greater percentage of the base circle. My guess is it might be be too much.
But on an 8 valve, the stock lift is 0.474". Jon Milledge made me a cam with 0.503" by reducing base circle and he said the lifters will take up the slack (but not too much more). So, that's almost 30 thou.
However, on a 16 valver, there's less lift to work with so 30 thou would be a greater percentage of the base circle. My guess is it might be be too much.
#5
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I was talking to LR and he mentioned that the preload on the 8v was 40 thou, with a total lifter travel of .120 he had no specs for the 16. I feel that Its related to having suitible preload remaining of the hydraulic lifter. I have heard of sbc guys adjusting preload down to keep the lifter from keeping the valve off the seat if it pumps up and cant bleed down at high rpm. If what JM says and the 40 thou is what you were working with to start sounds like you have about .010 on that base circle.. My cams will arrive this week coming and we are going to try it. If I can get .010 I will run it as is.
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You know working in MM is so much easier to understand.. and would make more sense on a german car
But for some reason, cam timing and cam specs get very secretive for these cars. Don't know why.
But for some reason, cam timing and cam specs get very secretive for these cars. Don't know why.
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That said, what we used to do with the old Turbo Fords I played with was either shim the lash adjusters, or put caps on the valves. Those were followers, rather than buckets, but I'd guess one could make a shim or cap to go between the valve stem in the button on the bucket?