Front mount intercooler install + 3" piping with pics
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when i did my build i was aiming for 360 rwhp. I'm roughly on 375 - 410 rwhp via data logs. Probably very close to 400rwhp.
I wouldn't want to push more then 400 on stock rods. especially if you're going to track it or something.
If you don't want to change the rods, I'd aim for something else, like quick spool and flat torque curve.
I wouldn't want to push more then 400 on stock rods. especially if you're going to track it or something.
If you don't want to change the rods, I'd aim for something else, like quick spool and flat torque curve.
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While I applaud the level of effort the non-mandrel bent pipe going to the throttle body is one place where saving $10 does not make sense! Go buy some mandrel bent pipe and fix that!!
Stock rods will deal with just about any torque level you can come up with as long as the tune is good. If you get detonation then all bets are off. The only problem I have with stock rods is the weight (they are damn heavy - must be made by the Panzer division of Porsche!) and the age. With 25 year old rods who knows what has been done to stress them out previously.
Stock rods will deal with just about any torque level you can come up with as long as the tune is good. If you get detonation then all bets are off. The only problem I have with stock rods is the weight (they are damn heavy - must be made by the Panzer division of Porsche!) and the age. With 25 year old rods who knows what has been done to stress them out previously.
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BTW - is it me or does the bottom of the intercooler look a little 'wavy'.
With no batwing you are going to lose cooling capacity....and watch out for curbs, raccoons or anything else. The welded on mounting points will make a great place to snag something and rip the intercooler apart.
With no batwing you are going to lose cooling capacity....and watch out for curbs, raccoons or anything else. The welded on mounting points will make a great place to snag something and rip the intercooler apart.
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1st time I see someone use a DV and a blow off valve. You used exhaust pipes going into your tb nice. You must drive with no hood since the icv is over the strut bar. Any vac leaks?
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i'd hit it
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While I applaud the level of effort the non-mandrel bent pipe going to the throttle body is one place where saving $10 does not make sense! Go buy some mandrel bent pipe and fix that!!
Stock rods will deal with just about any torque level you can come up with as long as the tune is good. If you get detonation then all bets are off. The only problem I have with stock rods is the weight (they are damn heavy - must be made by the Panzer division of Porsche!) and the age. With 25 year old rods who knows what has been done to stress them out previously.
Stock rods will deal with just about any torque level you can come up with as long as the tune is good. If you get detonation then all bets are off. The only problem I have with stock rods is the weight (they are damn heavy - must be made by the Panzer division of Porsche!) and the age. With 25 year old rods who knows what has been done to stress them out previously.
Reno, my hood closes fine, it clears the ISV by a mile. Its been like that for well over a year. No vac leaks, I pull 19" at idle, and the DV is not hooked up. It is simply being used as an airtight seal in the J boot.
944er, I appreciate the input bud. I guess that's entirely up to opinion. You're welcome to a ride, it might change yours. Like I said, it was never meant to look pretty. I'm curious though, what about it do you find to be so poor? most of this setup is temporary.
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Doug,
I too applaud your ingenuity but you are going to have significant pressure drops through that piping. You can estimate it with some math (see below) but I am having trouble understanding the benefit. This kind of setup is going to make your turbo work harder therefore generate more heat! As the stock IC does a pretty good job, this mod may not be a positive step forward. The pressure drop through the stock IC is not huge and the only reason I could see the larger IC being needed would be heat soak concerns. Do those concerns justify the additional pressure drop? Maybe I am missing something about your goals however. Just some thoughts to consider
https://rennlist.com/forums/10562678-post736.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/10585208-post801.html
PS. Definitely need to get rid of the stock turbo outlet hose as its pressure drop is significant as it necks down to a 1.6" inside diameter.
I too applaud your ingenuity but you are going to have significant pressure drops through that piping. You can estimate it with some math (see below) but I am having trouble understanding the benefit. This kind of setup is going to make your turbo work harder therefore generate more heat! As the stock IC does a pretty good job, this mod may not be a positive step forward. The pressure drop through the stock IC is not huge and the only reason I could see the larger IC being needed would be heat soak concerns. Do those concerns justify the additional pressure drop? Maybe I am missing something about your goals however. Just some thoughts to consider
https://rennlist.com/forums/10562678-post736.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/10585208-post801.html
PS. Definitely need to get rid of the stock turbo outlet hose as its pressure drop is significant as it necks down to a 1.6" inside diameter.
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Doug,
I too applaud your ingenuity but you are going to have significant pressure drops through that piping. You can estimate it with some math (see below) but I am having trouble understanding the benefit. This kind of setup is going to make your turbo work harder therefore generate more heat! As the stock IC does a pretty good job, this mod may not be a positive step forward. The pressure drop through the stock IC is not huge and the only reason I could see the larger IC being needed would be heat soak concerns. Do those concerns justify the additional pressure drop? Maybe I am missing something about your goals however. Just some thoughts to consider
https://rennlist.com/forums/10562678-post736.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/10585208-post801.html
PS. Definitely need to get rid of the stock turbo outlet hose as its pressure drop is significant as it necks down to a 1.6" inside diameter.
I too applaud your ingenuity but you are going to have significant pressure drops through that piping. You can estimate it with some math (see below) but I am having trouble understanding the benefit. This kind of setup is going to make your turbo work harder therefore generate more heat! As the stock IC does a pretty good job, this mod may not be a positive step forward. The pressure drop through the stock IC is not huge and the only reason I could see the larger IC being needed would be heat soak concerns. Do those concerns justify the additional pressure drop? Maybe I am missing something about your goals however. Just some thoughts to consider
https://rennlist.com/forums/10562678-post736.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/10585208-post801.html
PS. Definitely need to get rid of the stock turbo outlet hose as its pressure drop is significant as it necks down to a 1.6" inside diameter.
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Wow! What a hack job. The disconnected bosch diverter valve with the HKS SSQ style BOV while still running an AFM. The crushed air filter. The ISV sitting above the intake manifold with the squashed hose held together by electrical tape. The fuel rail with dampener line disconnected and cable tied out of the way. The hose clamps holding the fuel lines. The squashed rubber connector on the throttle body. The crazy intercooler piping with a mish mash of T-bolt and worm drive clamps. The crazy wavy intercooler. The press bent exhaust pipe for the IC to TB connection.
Yet somehow this appeals to me as a modern marvel of home mechanics and determined ingenuity. Kind of mad max like. I can't wait to see what happens with the HX35 in place. Mad power or crazy explosions in the engine bay? Good work. I applaud you for your efforts!
Yet somehow this appeals to me as a modern marvel of home mechanics and determined ingenuity. Kind of mad max like. I can't wait to see what happens with the HX35 in place. Mad power or crazy explosions in the engine bay? Good work. I applaud you for your efforts!
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Wow! What a hack job. The disconnected bosch diverter valve with the HKS SSQ style BOV while still running an AFM. The crushed air filter. The ISV sitting above the intake manifold with the squashed hose held together by electrical tape. The fuel rail with dampener line disconnected and cable tied out of the way. The hose clamps holding the fuel lines. The squashed rubber connector on the throttle body. The crazy intercooler piping with a mish mash of T-bolt and worm drive clamps. The crazy wavy intercooler. The press bent exhaust pipe for the IC to TB connection.
Yet somehow this appeals to me as a modern marvel of home mechanics and determined ingenuity. Kind of mad max like. I can't wait to see what happens with the HX35 in place. Mad power or crazy explosions in the engine bay? Good work. I applaud you for your efforts!
Yet somehow this appeals to me as a modern marvel of home mechanics and determined ingenuity. Kind of mad max like. I can't wait to see what happens with the HX35 in place. Mad power or crazy explosions in the engine bay? Good work. I applaud you for your efforts!
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Keep us posted with your progress. Although I could never imagine having an engine bay looking like yours, threads like these are far more entertaining (and informative) than most of what is posted on rennlist. Make sure you take pictures of any explosions!