Geometry Correcting Spindle
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I thought you guys would like to check out these trick race parts. Brian from Midwest Eurosport made these for me to correct my bump steer issue while strengthening the weak points in the spindle. These were fabricated using my parts. He has made several of these style parts in the past and has been supporting (and racing) 944 platforms for over 15 years.
Price was $800 and are custom made for my application.
Price was $800 and are custom made for my application.
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Looks very solid, what about drop drop spindles, does anyone make this.? You would still have to use a longer tie end pins to get correct geometry with these.
Last edited by KSira; 08-08-2013 at 05:06 PM. Reason: Mixed a-arms with tie rods...
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Eurosport definitely does good work.
I was equally as impressed with Brian's trans cooler setup on his S2. I wish I took pictures the last time I saw it, I'd love to do something similar for my car.
I was equally as impressed with Brian's trans cooler setup on his S2. I wish I took pictures the last time I saw it, I'd love to do something similar for my car.
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We are using the Elephant racing bump steer correction part for the steering control drop.
Eurosport made the entire part. It integrates the greater pin length to my specification. We modified/increased the pin length by 1.5".
I met Brian after he and his crew were seen crawling under and over my car while at a PCA race weekend, they liked the "unique" modifications. Brian impressed me and my mechanic (Eniac) with a number of solutions to 944/951/S2 common problems. They support several race cars and show up with a full crew of personnel and transporter. Great guys.
Eurosport made the entire part. It integrates the greater pin length to my specification. We modified/increased the pin length by 1.5".
I met Brian after he and his crew were seen crawling under and over my car while at a PCA race weekend, they liked the "unique" modifications. Brian impressed me and my mechanic (Eniac) with a number of solutions to 944/951/S2 common problems. They support several race cars and show up with a full crew of personnel and transporter. Great guys.
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I thought you guys would like to check out these trick race parts. Brian from Midwest Eurosport made these for me to correct my bump steer issue while strengthening the weak points in the spindle. These were fabricated using my parts. He has made several of these style parts in the past and has been supporting (and racing) 944 platforms for over 15 years.
Price was $800 and are custom made for my application.
Price was $800 and are custom made for my application.
Again... it's a total mental thing. I actually bought a new set "just because" on my previous red car. I really worried about the load on those (stock unmodified spindles) with 315's and real high g loads.
Very cool though and certainly solves a problem.
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I agree it's not a perfect solution but it is superior to the common alternative of a lengthened, unsupported pin clamped by bending a cast component.
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Disregarding the question of the welds, it would be interesting to see this piece and the stock piece side by side? I currently have R/Edge arms with the longer pins and Elephant Bump steer kit. Haven't driven on this combination in total but would be interested in an alternative to the pins.
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Everybody has to make their own decisions. This spindle is built with the RE pin.
The stock 951 spindle is an inherently bad design for seriously fast race cars. Large front slicks provide enough grip to spread/bend the spindle arms. Dwayne/Kokeln/Vision discovered this with Orca, hence the 911 front suspension components.
Continuous bending is not a good thing for cast parts whether this occurs through threshold braking or clamping of the pin. The only other solution to solve the front wheel situation is to go the route that Tony G. has taken (Dwayne/Kokeln/Vision method - 911 parts).
Everyone has to make their own decisions on race fabrication. My decisions are based on personal experience and of course, several race engineers I have come to know and respect.
The stock 951 spindle is an inherently bad design for seriously fast race cars. Large front slicks provide enough grip to spread/bend the spindle arms. Dwayne/Kokeln/Vision discovered this with Orca, hence the 911 front suspension components.
Continuous bending is not a good thing for cast parts whether this occurs through threshold braking or clamping of the pin. The only other solution to solve the front wheel situation is to go the route that Tony G. has taken (Dwayne/Kokeln/Vision method - 911 parts).
Everyone has to make their own decisions on race fabrication. My decisions are based on personal experience and of course, several race engineers I have come to know and respect.