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Old 07-19-2013, 06:32 AM
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Sorry duplicate post.
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Additionally, no 924, 944, or 968 ever had a Porsche transmission. They were all made by Audi and were in fact slightly tweaked production Audi transmissions.
The 5 speed snailshell transmission (dog leg) in the early production 924 and 931 was a Porsche transmission with 915 internals.






http://www.924.org/techsection/7transaxle.htm

To summarize:
088/6 and 088/A = 4-speed Audi (standard 76-79 US & ROW)
016/Z & 016/Y = 5-speed snailshell for NAs (optional 78-79 US & ROW)
016/8 & 016/9 = 5-speed Audi for NAs (standard, 80-onward US & ROW)
G31/01 & G31/02 = 5-speed snailshell for 931s (standard 79-80 US, 79-84 ROW)
016/G = 5-speed Audi for 931s, 924S, and early 944 (standard 81-onward US only)
Old 07-19-2013, 06:36 AM
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No idea what's going on with my phone and the multiple posts, that's a new one!
Old 07-19-2013, 11:29 AM
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Sorry...

You're correct.

I should have said all 944 or 968.

And most 924.

TonyG

Originally Posted by chrenan
The 5 speed snailshell transmission (dog leg) in the early production 924 and 931 was a Porsche transmission with 915 internals.






http://www.924.org/techsection/7transaxle.htm

To summarize:
088/6 and 088/A = 4-speed Audi (standard 76-79 US & ROW)
016/Z & 016/Y = 5-speed snailshell for NAs (optional 78-79 US & ROW)
016/8 & 016/9 = 5-speed Audi for NAs (standard, 80-onward US & ROW)
G31/01 & G31/02 = 5-speed snailshell for 931s (standard 79-80 US, 79-84 ROW)
016/G = 5-speed Audi for 931s, 924S, and early 944 (standard 81-onward US only)
Old 07-19-2013, 01:32 PM
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When I was at the Monterey Historics a few years ago the featured marque was Porsche. I got the chance to speak with the owner of a cool Jagermeister 911. He was in his 60's and told me he bought the car back in the eighties from the son of the Jagermeister founder. He has raced it for over 25 years and said he will continue racing it as long as he can still breathe. Which got me thinking, how much would he have paid for that car back in the day and what is it worth today? What cars could we pick up now that would be eligible for historic racing at a reasonable price that will appreciate in value over the years? Any ideas? Not saying this 944 GTR is one but you never know.
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Sorry...

You're correct.
Don't worry, it rarely happens that I'm correct.
Old 07-20-2013, 08:55 AM
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Interestingly because this was built by Fabcar many collectors do not recognize this car as a Porsche.
Old 07-20-2013, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyG

Originally Posted by chrenan
The 5 speed snailshell transmission (dog leg) in the early production 924 and 931 was a Porsche transmission with 915 internals.

To summarize:
088/6 and 088/A = 4-speed Audi (standard 76-79 US & ROW)
016/Z & 016/Y = 5-speed snailshell for NAs (optional 78-79 US & ROW)
016/8 & 016/9 = 5-speed Audi for NAs (standard, 80-onward US & ROW)
G31/01 & G31/02 = 5-speed snailshell for 931s (standard 79-80 US, 79-84 ROW)
016/G = 5-speed Audi for 931s, 924S, and early 944 (standard 81-onward US only)
Sorry...

You're correct.

I should have said all 944 or 968.

And most 924.

TonyG
Yes, quite true. I should've clarified. Don't the rules require a transmission that came in a Porsche? Maybe that's an old set of rules.

Lol at the multiple posts there. You can have a mod delete them if you want.

Take care,
Old 07-22-2013, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Joel8005
Interestingly because this was built by Fabcar many collectors do not recognize this car as a Porsche.
There are a few 962s that were built in the US as well, do collectors turn their noses up at them?
Old 07-22-2013, 06:58 PM
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There were many 962's built over the course of a number of years. Al Holbert built his own version of the 962. Fabcar built 962's that had Porsche vin #'s. Other teams built other versions of the 962.
The 944 GTR should be more collectable due to the low numbers built?
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Originally Posted by tomjshore
There were many 962's built over the course of a number of years. Al Holbert built his own version of the 962. Fabcar built 962's that had Porsche vin #'s. Other teams built other versions of the 962.
The 944 GTR should be more collectable due to the low numbers built?
Probably not due to the 962's reputation and racing heritage. A lot of the collectability comes from who drove it, where it was raced and how it performed.

However, would a 944 GTR be more collectable than a modern day GT3 Cup Car? I would think so and they are priced similar.
Old 07-23-2013, 10:24 PM
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The 962 is a different animal all together.
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Originally Posted by SoloRacer
Probably not due to the 962's reputation and racing heritage. A lot of the collectability comes from who drove it, where it was raced and how it performed.

However, would a 944 GTR be more collectable than a modern day GT3 Cup Car? I would think so and they are priced similar.
Unfortunately the term ‘collectable’ is based on a market existing. Something is only worth as much as someone else is prepared to pay. In the case of the 924/44 race cars, there’s not many people who have both the interest and the cash for one of these cars. Hence, they sit in shops gathering dust which is a great shame.
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I think the fact that there were only 7 ever built makes them collectable to the right person. I agree it is a shame they aren't seen out much, not sure if they are gathering dust or that they are just too rare to be seen at the track being raced. A lot of the collectables are now just displayed and hopefully for their owners, appreciating. I remember the days years ago when we would see cars like the 962's being raced at PCA events.
Old 07-24-2013, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fast924S
Why hasn't this happened yet
Because Tony is already building a car. LOL


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