Gator_86_951

What about the broken tap? That is not exactly very normal

Bonster

Okay. Thanks for replying Supes. Now that both sides of the story have been aired, I see little reason for this thread to remain open. The OP desired a response, and he got it. Unless another mod closes this thread down, or if somebody posts a good reason to keep it open, I plan to shut this down by day's end (I am only up this early because my husband has an early flight out if town).

Supes - I hear ya on the Paypal thing. I had a guy complain and he won AFTER he had a great day at the track with us. I of course cannot assert with confidencen that this is the same with your situation, but I do know how Paypal can be.

However this all turns out, I hope that this forum does not become a battle ground. You guys have both said your piece. I highly recommend that the remainder of your guys' dispute gets settled between you two and not on the forum. There is nothing the rest of us can do at this point but speculate. Thanks, and best of luck to you both.

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Bonster

True, but can any of us observers say with 100% confidence that it was like that when the purchaser received it? Or that the seller knew about it? This is why I felt we all might just observe at this point. I am of course bummed this all happened, but I was not there at time of receipt, so I cannot do anything but speculate. Big lesson to us all: 1. It is probably not a great idea to buy a head online, sight unseen, and 2. It is probably not a good idea to sell a head online unless the buyer has seen the head and/or had it tested first.

kinglenario

The bottom line is that the head was not in useable condition as I had been led to believe. When I received it I had it checked by the machine shop and that was it. When I contacted Supes6 about returning it and working something out he just said he would not return it. I actually care about my online reputation so I would never send anyone back a part that I had used or screwed up myself. I have a good reputation dealing with people on this board and other boards and this isn't the first person that has been stiffed by Supes6.

So my question to Supes6 is, why won't you take the head back in exactly the same condition as you sent it? I sure as hell didn't do anything to it/with it, and I would be happy to put you in contact with the shop.

kinglenario

Yeah it does say a lot. If someone posts something about you and you strongly disagree you're going to respond right away.

I let him know VERY clearly and in multiple emails over the course of a week that if he did not return the head that I was going to post what happened to warn other potential buyers.

Supes6 made it very clear that he was not willing to return the item and made no other offer of compromise.

racerxrick

I shipped a used stock turbo off of my car oversea's, it was working fine when it was taken off the car. It had a broken stud in it than I hadn't noticed or disclosed (an oversite and my fault). I didn't do the turbo swap myself, nor would I for that matter!

The buyer was not happy about the broken stud and I think had another concern. For the relatively small amount (which in your case is $300) I promptly refunded his money, no further questions asked. By his initial e mail to me he sounded like he expected a fight.

Better to side with integrity and refund the money.

In my case it was a $75 used turbo...heck I told him to keep it.

refresh951

+1 I had a similar situation in which I sold a MAF on RL. I shipped it, buyer sent me a pm all upset because he said the MAF wires were cut. I said "you could see the cut wires very plainly in the image I posted it the FS post". He still was not happy about it. I said "no problem" and promptly refunded his money. He then shipped it back in the same box I shipped it in but he failed to fill it with the foam peanuts I used. MAF rattled around all the way back to me. Then he shipped it to the UPS store I used instead of my address. It was not close to my house and it took me a few days to pick it up. Then the UPS store charged me $5/day storage.

I had every right really not to take it back but I DID. I feel that if you use RL to sell something you should go the extra mile to make sure the buyer is happy. Just my two cents...

onspeed

FWIW, I think I've dealt with Supes6 in the past with no issues.

And if I'm not misreading the OP - the broken tap is in the head that's on the car, not the one he bought, yes?

It seems like this all stems from the machine shop's assessment of the head.. is it not possible they screwed up? The seller says it was working fine on his car, and your mechanic is saying it's completely ruined. Surely such damage is something they could show you?

Tedro951

How much do you want for the core head in question?

JayB

How are we on page 3 of this and no one has mentioned the infamous Charlie Wenzel?

If you don't know.... google.

Just don't get caught up in reading the whole thread and wasting many hours of your life.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203

kinglenario

Yep, needs to just be taken back and refunded. Pretty simple.

kinglenario

I'm going through the PayPal dispute process. I'll let you know if it doesn't work out.

Thanks

lart951

David, I do envy the amazing work , those heads look so nice I wish I can seen something like that in LA, usually what we have here is hand grinding, I didn't even know they have machines for the heads, I need to get hook up with that program also, is it photoshop or corel draw? btw do you happen to have a dyno sheet from any of those nice looking cars on your pornmotion site?

specially this 375hoepower monster with the stock afm

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=f7907f03.jpg

acorad

Reasonable men can disagree.

White_951

Seems to me anyone who would jeopardize his current reputation and negatively impact his future livelihood on these boards for a $300 part is operating under desperate circumstances...

The prevailing attitude around here, and also around Pelican IMO, is 100% customer satisfaction....