Olli Snellman

If you check <a href="http://www.mobile.de," target="_blank">www.mobile.de,</a> there are 5 1991 Turbos for sale! All of them are Cabriolets

Stephen Porter

Rich,

I cannot access anything on this site. Get "Connection refused: Port 80." Do you have to be Canadian???!!! ;-)

In any case, can you send me the particulars on the 1990 951? Or tell me how I can get on this site?

Thanks.

Stephen Porter
LA, CA USA

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Rich Sandor:
<strong>there a 1990 951 black one for sale on trader.ca, in Vancouver.

<a href="http://www.canadatrader.com/trader/result/affich.asp?sid=12LPULL8589273&rubno=4000&pa=13&pr=2&cregion=1002" target="_blank">http://www.canadatrader.com/trader/result/affich.asp?sid=12LPULL8589 273&rubno=4000&pa=13&pr=2&cregion=1002</a></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">

pete95zhn

Hi!

Try: <a href="http://www.mobile.de" target="_blank">www.mobile.de</a> There was a useless comma mixing things...

Pete

uli953

Here you can see the actual amount of cars running in good old Germany:

<a href="http://members.fortunecity.de/magnus6/zulassungszahlen.html" target="_blank">http://members.fortunecity.de/magnus6/zulassungszahlen.html</a>

E.g. 193 944turbo cabrio as per 01.01.2003

Very astonishing, there are only 100 924 turbo II left.....

Thom

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by uli953:
<strong>Here you can see the actual amount of cars running in good old Germany:

<a href="http://members.fortunecity.de/magnus6/zulassungszahlen.html" target="_blank">http://members.fortunecity.de/magnus6/zulassungszahlen.html</a>

E.g. 193 944turbo cabrio as per 01.01.2003

Very astonishing, there are only 100 924 turbo II left.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Where did you get these figures from ??
The "death" rate is alarmingly high. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

uli953

I assume, the "924/944/968 IG", that did this page, got the figures from the "Kraftfahrzeug Bundes Amt (KBA)". This is the official office for registration and so on.

Yes, the death rate is alarming. Especially for "ordinary" 924 and 944.

Anyhow, the 944 turbo II is not that rarer than the 944 turbo I

adrial

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by uli953:
<strong>
Anyhow, the 944 turbo II is not that rarer than the 944 turbo I</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Is the 944 turbo II a 944 turbo after 1987? And 944 turbo I a 944 turbo in 1986?

Or does the split happen with the 88 turbo S/88 turbo??

ian kam

i recall reading somewhere that the 951 was not imported to the usa due to a drop in sales to one of the flagship models the 930 turbo. Due to the bang for the buck the 951 had a very close performance sheet to the 930 the sale of these cars were more economical to porsche in usa than the 951.As I recall without the sales in the USA (california)the 930 would have been a disaster.Co7uld be wrong but do recall an article somewhere

uli953

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by adrial:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by uli953:
<strong>
Anyhow, the 944 turbo II is not that rarer than the 944 turbo I</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Is the 944 turbo II a 944 turbo after 1987? And 944 turbo I a 944 turbo in 1986?

Or does the split happen with the 88 turbo S/88 turbo??</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">@adrial

I refer to the figures (shown in my link posted above) that show registerred cars in Germany (only !).

Code nr. 400 is turbo I with 220 hp, code nr. 412 is turbo II with 250 hp

kyote1

Interesting reading on an old thread.

My question wold would be: What would a 1990 North American 951 be worth these days?

KevinGross

The info I have had for many years in the FAQ is the 144, see:

http://www.connactivity.com/~kgross/FAQ/944faq03.html

I don't remember where the figures came from originally. Maybe Bruce Anderson.

GTSG8R

I have one and would expect that it would have a bit of a premium over an 89 in the same condition but condition would still be a major factor. I just had the opportunity to buy a very good condition 1990 and knew it was quite unique so why not? Besides, I really like the look of the tail much better than the previous years.

GTSG8R

I believe the 144 number came from the spread in the VIN numbers. That is a bad assumption though and the most accurate information I have seen is that 47 were slated to come to Canada only but only 40 of those were actually delivered. My car has a 127 VIN but there definitely were not 126 before it. I have a letter from PCNA stating the 40 number. I have read but not confirmed that a few 1991 models made it through too.