Carbon hood
03-10-2003, 09:23 AM
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On your list of interested people, it looks like you forgot to add Alan C. And, I am also interested in the $400 to $500 price range if the hood will be a nicely crafted, strong and light 100% carbon fiber part. A plain hood works great for me.
Megatron, is this a 100% carbon fiber hood that VIS would be making? Or, is it a fiberglass hood with a carbon fiber weave laid on it for looks only??
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Jeff
Megatron, is this a 100% carbon fiber hood that VIS would be making? Or, is it a fiberglass hood with a carbon fiber weave laid on it for looks only??
Thanks,
Jeff
03-10-2003, 09:54 AM
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Megatron, I just read your cross posting to the 924/944/951/968 web board and you make it clear that this hood will be a fiberglass hood with a carbon fiber layer for looks. Sorry I missed that before asking the question.
This actually brings up another question -> As long as this will be a new hood for VSI, why don't they just make a 100% carbon fiber hood from the very beginning?? From what I understand, it would be lighter and stronger. As long as they are taking the time to lay up some fiberglass, I can't see how just doing the whole hood in CF from the start would be that much different. It's the same process -> fabric and resin. Maybe I am missing something. Is CF more difficult to work with than fiberglass??
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This actually brings up another question -> As long as this will be a new hood for VSI, why don't they just make a 100% carbon fiber hood from the very beginning?? From what I understand, it would be lighter and stronger. As long as they are taking the time to lay up some fiberglass, I can't see how just doing the whole hood in CF from the start would be that much different. It's the same process -> fabric and resin. Maybe I am missing something. Is CF more difficult to work with than fiberglass??
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03-10-2003, 10:28 AM
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I'd try to get a more definite idea about weight and costs for less than 25 hoods for sure.
A hood with glass "structure" and a carbon skin isn't likely to weigh anywhere near 7lbs.
Ten hoods is likely to be significantly more$.
A hood with glass "structure" and a carbon skin isn't likely to weigh anywhere near 7lbs.
Ten hoods is likely to be significantly more$.
03-11-2003, 05:34 AM
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i will try to get everyone's questions answered tomorrow. please see the new post & direct all questions/comments to the thread in the general 924/944/951/968 folder. thanks.
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03-11-2003, 05:42 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Jeff Lamb:
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This actually brings up another question -> As long as this will be a new hood for VSI, why don't they just make a 100% carbon fiber hood from the very beginning?? From what I understand, it would be lighter and stronger. As long as they are taking the time to lay up some fiberglass, I can't see how just doing the whole hood in CF from the start would be that much different. It's the same process -> fabric and resin. Maybe I am missing something. Is CF more difficult to work with than fiberglass??
Jeff</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">some of the "street" hood makers i've seen use the factory hood "structure" and bond a carbon fiber skin to that
some of the "street" hood makers i've seen use glass mat to build up the "structure" then bond the skin to that. this is what vis & fiberimages do. there is still a significant weight savings over stock. an estimate of how much, exactly, i'll find out.
i've not seen a 100% carbon hood on a street driven car, but then again, i've only seen carbon hoods on sport compacts. it'd be great to have this. i'll see what they say.
anyway, i'm 100% with you. the reason i'm doing this is to try to get my 951 as light as i can get it in street trim and this is part of the effort. i've got some homebrew cf stuff in my garage, but i don't have enough room to make a hood in there, so trying this route...
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This actually brings up another question -> As long as this will be a new hood for VSI, why don't they just make a 100% carbon fiber hood from the very beginning?? From what I understand, it would be lighter and stronger. As long as they are taking the time to lay up some fiberglass, I can't see how just doing the whole hood in CF from the start would be that much different. It's the same process -> fabric and resin. Maybe I am missing something. Is CF more difficult to work with than fiberglass??
Jeff</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">some of the "street" hood makers i've seen use the factory hood "structure" and bond a carbon fiber skin to that
some of the "street" hood makers i've seen use glass mat to build up the "structure" then bond the skin to that. this is what vis & fiberimages do. there is still a significant weight savings over stock. an estimate of how much, exactly, i'll find out.
i've not seen a 100% carbon hood on a street driven car, but then again, i've only seen carbon hoods on sport compacts. it'd be great to have this. i'll see what they say.
anyway, i'm 100% with you. the reason i'm doing this is to try to get my 951 as light as i can get it in street trim and this is part of the effort. i've got some homebrew cf stuff in my garage, but i don't have enough room to make a hood in there, so trying this route...
03-12-2003, 12:24 AM
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Put me on the list if it's 4-500 bucks. And to answer the question as far as glass with CF overlay, I don't think that we would pay the cost for a solid CF hood. CF is about 30-40 bucks more per yard than glass. Multiple layers of CF would dramaticlly rise the cost for a street hood requiring more than just a skin.
