mr965

I'm looking for anyone who has an opinion/experience on this comparison please? The car will be used mainly for track duty. Thanks.

reno808

here let m help

Black51

Man that's annoying...

jc in rb

OK , so whats the point of having a forum.If you dont know just dont answer.....

kinglenario

There is very minimal info about the H&R for our cars. I know they're about $2600 and read somewhere that most of them use bilstein parts in them. seem a little pricey for what they are. The Bilsteins aren't a great option in my opinion either. What are you doing with the car?

944CS

The H&R shocks are actually Bilsteins with H&R stickers on them.

Is this for only track, or track/street?

mr965

This will be 90% track. I've found some pages dealing with my question of keeping torsion bars but that was from 2004. Is this still the same opinion after 7 years? Firehawk sounds like it will be the same price so I'm wondering if there is any upgrade to going to H&R.

333pg333

If you're going to spend that sort of money, look at the KW V3 or Klubsports.

alxdgr8

That's awesome, I'll have to remember that for future use. The N/A forums needs to know about it for the "turbo my N/A" threads.

mikey_audiogeek

I have the H&R and they do appear to be the 380/150 struts and the 565/218 valved rear coilovers. Nice setup. Helper springs and good hardware as well. Price is OK for a tuned package but you can assemble yourself for less. H&R setup is controversial to some people (850 lb/in rear springs) but works for me.

Cheers,
Mike

reno808

if its good enough for a cup car its good enough for me

944CS

In my experience, if you don't want to spend $2,500+ on your suspension, the Bilstein firehawk front struts work great with 450 lb/in in the front on a turbo and Escort cup rear shocks with 250 or 300 lb/in springs in the rear in addition to the 23.5mm torsion bar(in my case, or 25.5 if you are turbo S but then I would use the 250 lb/in "helper's"). This is for 245 wide R compound tires. If you are running something else (slicks or wider R compounds) you may have to adjust your spring rates, or if you have 400+ hp you may need a little more rear spring (max 350 for the front 450 rate).

KW V3 is a good street/track setup but is not really a true track suspension.

reno808

yeah i hate seeing post to where if people took just a simple minute to search bam they will have answer with how toos and pictures. I think twice about making a new thread.

jpop8807

I hate seeing people tell people to search when most of the treads on here are old as hell.

zerMATT951

+1 Old as hell, and the search engine here SUCKS