Bilstein Firehawk vs H&R RSS clubsport
11-11-2011, 10:22 AM
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Eh, firehawks don't do much for the rear and the rear is soft in these cars. Based off of wheel rates, you really need to run high rate springs in the rear.
Bilstein is really where it's at with track oriented cars. I've never seen a Bilstein fail (outside of improper spring selection and extreme dropping/riding on bump stops). I just wish there were more budget options for the 944.
Bilstein is really where it's at with track oriented cars. I've never seen a Bilstein fail (outside of improper spring selection and extreme dropping/riding on bump stops). I just wish there were more budget options for the 944.
11-11-2011, 10:33 AM
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11-11-2011, 01:29 PM
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11-11-2011, 01:40 PM
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Eh, firehawks don't do much for the rear and the rear is soft in these cars. Based off of wheel rates, you really need to run high rate springs in the rear.
Bilstein is really where it's at with track oriented cars. I've never seen a Bilstein fail (outside of improper spring selection and extreme dropping/riding on bump stops). I just wish there were more budget options for the 944.
To be honest, I might be giving these a try with the Bilstein Cup rates:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COILOVER-Por...item19c10981e4
I have access to a shock/suspension engineer along with a shock dyno and I would probably test them on the street and track for a year before I can fully recommend them/resell them. There needs to be a better budget option for these cars.
Bilstein is really where it's at with track oriented cars. I've never seen a Bilstein fail (outside of improper spring selection and extreme dropping/riding on bump stops). I just wish there were more budget options for the 944.
To be honest, I might be giving these a try with the Bilstein Cup rates:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COILOVER-Por...item19c10981e4
I have access to a shock/suspension engineer along with a shock dyno and I would probably test them on the street and track for a year before I can fully recommend them/resell them. There needs to be a better budget option for these cars.
Also I advised to used the Escort cup rears because the Firehawk rears do not add "helper springs" - I agree with you these cars are too soft in general (front & rear) from the factory for today's tires/tastes
For sure.
11-12-2011, 01:10 AM
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Yes it does !!! 
You have said this to many more than, people who have, "Only owned their car for a couple of days"...
I bought my car, almost before you were born ! Come Onnnn... Reno
Couldn't have said it better !!
I bought my car, almost before you were born ! Come Onnnn... Reno
Couldn't have said it better !!
11-12-2011, 03:47 AM
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I have the original M030 with fatigued Koni sports. Thought it would be a good time for an upgrade. Thinking of going full coil and delete the torsion bars.
11-12-2011, 04:01 AM
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02-15-2013, 12:38 PM
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Both Firehawk and Escort Cup are Bilstein, yes. They should have almost identical internals and the ability to revalve them if needed. The main reason why I don't like the Firehawks is the lack of a helper spring in the rear. That helper spring is a must if you plan on doing anything more than a stock setup/rates. The Firehawk setup is way too costly NOT to have a rear helper spring.
What sucks is for 700 dollars, I was able to put all new Bilstein Sports and H&R Sport or Race on my Z3 M Roadster. I wish that was an option for these 944s.
What sucks is for 700 dollars, I was able to put all new Bilstein Sports and H&R Sport or Race on my Z3 M Roadster. I wish that was an option for these 944s.
02-15-2013, 07:39 PM
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That makes sense, so if I never plan on eliminating the bars, and going too stiff (greater than a 34mm bar) on the rear I should be ok then.
02-15-2013, 10:30 PM
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If you want to run 350-400lb/in wheel rates then the Escort rears would be better. Firehawk rears probably better for 250-300lb/in wheel rates.
So that would mean 27.5-28.5mm bars with Firehawks, approx.
Cheers,
Mike
So that would mean 27.5-28.5mm bars with Firehawks, approx.
Cheers,
Mike
