Crazy Eddie

A 5mm reg socket will work but I went an spent like 15 dollars on a set from Kragens now called O'Reilly Auto Parts a few yrs ago....
GL
Regards
Ed

Crackership

Is there any advantage to the Saturn studs other than price and that they work? are they better than the Porsche ones in any way?

Matt, did you have to do anything other than thread them into the head for the intake manifold? I mean, I'm assuming you used lock-tite, but anything else?

Crazy Eddie

There are pro's and cons
There are not exactly the same size (length wise)
that can cause an issue with how you get them on.
Pros
You don't have to do that double nut bull****
I would not use lock-tite ???
If anything ( I know your not supposed to, but I used anti-seize )
They also look a little nicer (especially when you plate them)

zerMATT951

I bought a Lisle set at Sears.


They are better than Porsche studs in that you don't have to mess with double nuts, and they are black.

I didn't do anything special, no loc-tite, but I may have used a touch of copper anti-seize. I spent too much time chasing threads on this car to use loc-tite anywhere except a couple very strategic spots. Plus, these studs are easy enough to get to that re-checking torque would be extremely easy if I had to.

samluke

Crazy,

I am with you, I use antiseize on most of the fasteners. I rarely have to wrestle with seized bolts, and unintentional loosening has never been a problem.

I only loctite where Porsche specifies it, ie the ignition rotor, LSD bolts and a few others.

Josh B

I always thought the saturn studs looked like this but I guess not? Any ideas as to where to find this style?

Crazy Eddie

Same here ... I dread any bolt or stud that seizes....

I like those....

Crackership

What's the length? I'm assuming it's M6x1.25, correct? There's a place here locally that can get just about any kind of hardware ever made. If I can get specs, I'll see if they have or can get them and, if so, I could pick some up for everybody..

Crazy Eddie

Off the top of my head I think the stock ones are 38mm long????
They are M8 x 1.25

Crackership

They're M8's... really? I could have sworn I remember them being smaller than that... I guess all the fuel I've been smelling lately is making me hallucinate

I'll call them up tomorrow and see if they can provide any with that nifty female allen at about 38mm. In my experience, they either have them, can get them, or Josh has photoshopped that pic

Josh B

This is where I picked it up from but Paul hasn't posted on the board since 2009.

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...age-three.html

Crazy Eddie

Correction
See from Josh's link https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...e-three-3.html post #37
Ok prob more info than what was requested but here goes;

1) Overall lenth of Saturn stud (average of 16 taken) 50mm. Lenth of the part that screws into head (meassured from shoulder, average) 17mm.

2) OL of stock stud (average of 8) 47mm. Lenth of the part that screws into head (meassured from shoulder, average) 15mm.

As measured by my crappy caliper (hey don't laugh it is actually pretty accurate for this sort of stuff).

I installed the set that came in the last GB, they worked fine. I guess the allen heads would also work fine, no need to double nut.

MM951

Josh,

IRRC I bought those studs with a 5mm allen key head as part of a "944 Turbo exhaust hardware kit" that was about $40. I'll look through receipts and see if I can find out where.

kinglenario

there's a place right here in atlanta that basically has everything if you wanted to get the hex insert style.

http://metrobolt.com/

Crackership

Well, I called that place here locally that usually has any kind of weird hardware you could ever think of, and bust they don't have it and don't know where to get it. Lame. I was absolutely sure they'd know where to get it...