Cold air is fast air! (In the intake)
11-26-2002, 12:59 PM
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Cold air is fast air! (In the intake)
Check this out!!!!! I see some additional speed in my future. <a href="http://www.designengineering.com/cryo2_related_items.html" target="_blank">Cryogenic Intake and IC sprayer</a>
11-26-2002, 01:23 PM
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The aerodynamic shaped bulb goes inline between the intercooler and the throttle body.
This would work nicely for me since my air temp sensor is right before the throttle body.
Did you see the fuel cooler too?
This would work nicely for me since my air temp sensor is right before the throttle body.
Did you see the fuel cooler too?
11-26-2002, 02:39 PM
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Russ you may want to check this web site for good scientific articles including this one<a href="http://www.autospeed.com/A_1132/page1.html" target="_blank">autospeed.com</a>
11-26-2002, 03:09 PM
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Interesting article. It seems like a large (square) sprayer bar with liquid CO2 might be pretty effective seeing as in this test they were dropping intake temps 8-9% with a single spray bottle. I think the real deal would be the inline cooler. They saw 30-35% intake temp drop on the turbocar with the pre-cooler temps a little over 100 F.
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11-26-2002, 07:54 PM
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The install kit (5lb tank, valve, stainless hose, acuator, full throttle switch, and other bits) will be around $375. The fuel rail cooling setup around $140. The spray bar kit $65 and the intake cooler $155. These are approximate retail prices. They should start shipping Feb. 1st.
11-26-2002, 08:08 PM
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Might want to think about a little thing called Ductile to Brittle Transition temperature. Lets assume they did their homework and have their bases covered. Things like 409 SS have a DBT around room temp if the cross section is large coupled with large grains, like in a weld. Austenitics wouldn't be a problem at the stated temps.
Just something to be aware of when playing with metals and cold temps.
Alan
Just something to be aware of when playing with metals and cold temps.
Alan
11-27-2002, 11:36 AM
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Yes it is. But don't think it's ever been incorporated into the car in such an intergrated manner. Refilling an intake cooler with dry ice is ok between drag runs but not too useful anywhere else.
11-27-2002, 01:02 PM
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Russ,
At the noted temps I don't think you will have any problems with aluminum. If you get 1008 carbon steel parts or some chrome molly parts into that range you could run into problems. Just a thought!
Alan
At the noted temps I don't think you will have any problems with aluminum. If you get 1008 carbon steel parts or some chrome molly parts into that range you could run into problems. Just a thought!
Alan
11-28-2002, 02:39 PM
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This has got to be the coolest idea.
C02 is probably the easiest gas to get your hand on too. I used to be into paintball, and I leased a 6 ft tall tank of that stuff for 50 dollars from a local distributor. Talk about bang for the buck!
C02 is probably the easiest gas to get your hand on too. I used to be into paintball, and I leased a 6 ft tall tank of that stuff for 50 dollars from a local distributor. Talk about bang for the buck!
11-29-2002, 12:20 PM
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I'm trying to see a downside to this setup. Does anyone see any potential engine harm? I mean, what's bad about cool intake temps? If CO2 is cheap and the system is meterable so it can last a reasonable length of time, I think it's a winner. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />