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Old 02-12-2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
I have seen a lot more stripped triple square bolts than allen heads.
It does make sense to get decent quality bolts with cad plating if possible.

BTW – shouldn’t all the cheesehead bolts be out celebrating the superbowl?
Karl made it! He is my new hero!

Bolts are all torqued.. she is about ready to rock and roll..

And yes the cheeseheads should be partying like its 1999!

I have yet to strip out a cheesehead fastener, but dont feel like pressing my luck any longer, next time, they will be swapped for a better fastener!
Old 02-12-2011, 01:14 PM
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JoKa, my phone is dead (stupid Apple products!!!) but I hope you've gotten everything together and she's running good.
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JoKa, my phone is dead (stupid Apple products!!!) but I hope you've gotten everything together and she's running good.


as seen in other places!

Thanks again Karl, Now I need to get a Jeep out of the way, and go out for shakedown!
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Originally Posted by JohnKoaWood
Karl is stopping here in the morning!

WOO HOO she will ride tomorrow!

I started yesterday afternoon like this:


and ended today like this:


Axles are in, and hardware is snugged up, should take me about 30 minutes tomorrow morning, then off to an alignment, and then to run the roads again!

Completed:
Rear wheel bearing replacement
new trans mount
fuel pickup replaced
(everything from here down has been installed since yesterday afternoon)
fuel filter replaced
head gasket replaced
head rebuilt (IMA Motorsport)
Cam tower reseal/rebuilt
full front end reseal
new trans output shaft seals
new sway bar bushings
rebuilt power steering rack
rebuilt power steering lines
new timing belt
new BS belt
replaced lower BS front carrier (previous damage to PS pump mount)
NEW injectors
new tie rod ends

It was torn apart 10 January, and will ride tomorrow!
Danm that's a boat load of stuff in that period of time
Awesome job John!!
Hope it all comes together for ya
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:37 PM
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Hey John.. glad I could help, and congrats on getting her running again!
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Originally Posted by Chris White
I have seen a lot more stripped triple square bolts than allen heads.
It does make sense to get decent quality bolts with cad plating if possible.

BTW – shouldn’t all the cheesehead bolts be out celebrating the superbowl?
You know something? I'm a freakin' idiot. I had it backwards. I did the same thing you did. The XR had torx heads, not 12 points. And they were monsters. They would actually strip or break the tools a lot of times. Ironically, the best tool was a relatively cheap one. Snap-ons were way too hard (and therefore brittle), and just broke. Craftsman were too soft, and they'd strip. There was some parts store set that a friend of mine found that were hard enough to not strip, but soft enough to not break.

And I replaced them with stainless allen head bolts.

I currently have the Stage 8's on the outside of my car, and the inside ones are safety wired (did that before the group buy thing came out, so I just left them). I'll probably switch to Stage 8's when I put in the LSD I just bought.
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Originally Posted by 67King
:...I currently have the Stage 8's on the outside of my car, and the inside ones are safety wired (did that before the group buy thing came out, so I just left them). I'll probably switch to Stage 8's when I put in the LSD I just bought.
Could you please post a link to Stage 8's? I have no idea what these are, but my next project is to install a Guards LSD (though I'll have a race shop do this one for me). I had purchased a complete set of replacement axle bolts from Paragon, but it sounds like I shouldn't use these...
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Originally Posted by 67King
This probably doesn't apply here, but if the car is going to be driven a lot, particularly in the weather, Allen head fasteners can be bad. Prior toy (and Merkur owners aren't anything like Porsche owners in what they'll expose their car to) had them, and they were notorious for stripping. I had to use a stud extractor every time I removed an axle. These cheesehead 3 square things are much better for being able to grip the fastener.
Agreed, I've never met an Allen head bolt that didn't want to strip. I hate the things with a passion. Triple-square isn't the best, but just looking at an Allen head bolt will remind you why it's everything bad about triple square and worse.

Where can you get external 12 point headed bolts, and are they even available in a size and thread to match our CVs? I quite like those things, but almost never see them.
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Originally Posted by jmj951
Could you please post a link to Stage 8's? I have no idea what these are, but my next project is to install a Guards LSD (though I'll have a race shop do this one for me). I had purchased a complete set of replacement axle bolts from Paragon, but it sounds like I shouldn't use these...
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...tage+group+buy
Old 02-13-2011, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jmj951
Could you please post a link to Stage 8's? I have no idea what these are, but my next project is to install a Guards LSD (though I'll have a race shop do this one for me). I had purchased a complete set of replacement axle bolts from Paragon, but it sounds like I shouldn't use these...
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Agreed, I've never met an Allen head bolt that didn't want to strip. I hate the things with a passion. Triple-square isn't the best, but just looking at an Allen head bolt will remind you why it's everything bad about triple square and worse.

Where can you get external 12 point headed bolts, and are they even available in a size and thread to match our CVs? I quite like those things, but almost never see them.
http://garage.ideola.com/prod-Stage8.html

There ya go!
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Originally Posted by Crazy Eddie
Danm that's a boat load of stuff in that period of time
Awesome job John!!
Hope it all comes together for ya
Best regards
Ed
140 miles completed tonight.. another 140 - 200 tomorrow!

woo hoo... I have missed this car, have a few wrinkles to iron out still, but hey... shes no spring chicken!
Old 02-13-2011, 09:47 AM
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Outstanding getting that much done in a day! My program was more of a "wait 4 days on this part, then wait 4 days on this tool, then wait 4 days on that part" type of a deal.

I'm impressed that in the marathon session there weren't more items you forgot to order!

Hope the rest of the month goes much smoother for you.
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Originally Posted by JohnKoaWood
Thanks! These will be perfect. I've actually had all the bolts back out of one of my CV's at the transaxle before (ironically less than one block from my house when it fell off), so I can attest to the need for these. I used high-strength threadlocker to reattach them and that's been holding ever since, but this is definitely the direction I want to go for the long term.
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Be advised that some have had issues with the outer bolts being a tad too long and binding. I haven't installed mine yet to confirm, but some had to space them back with a washer.
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One thing to note with the stage8 bolts, make sure the bolts you receive are the same length as your stock ones. I figured out the hard way that mine were too long.. about 1/4" longer than stock and when I tightened everything up they were hitting the inside of the upright. Ended up having to grind them down to the correct length.


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