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Old 09-28-2010, 04:55 PM
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Question reference sensor one has shim the other doesn?!

Hi all. I’m currently hunting down an intermittent misfire and bucking that just started. I decided to pull out my reference sensors to check them. I noticed the speed sensor had a washer/shim underneath it and the other sensor did not... Has anyone heard of this? Should they both have an equal gap or is there a reason who on sensor would be shimmed and the other not? thanks
Old 09-28-2010, 07:14 PM
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Yes thats normal
Old 09-28-2010, 08:02 PM
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alright thanks a lot!
Old 09-29-2010, 02:10 AM
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Odd... When I did my clutch job, I was told by some people here that they were both supposed to have a washer. So I went and bought one from Porsche cause I assume I lost it.
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huh... does anyone else have any input. im going to order new sensors asap but may need one more...
lee101315 or anyone else, can you explain why only one spacer? onspeed, what did they say about two spacers... thanks!
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It only needs one spacer. One sensor reads a set-screw, once per revolution. The other sensor reads the flywheel starter-ring teeth. These are different "heights" on the flywheel, so accordingly, the sensors need to be spaced differently.

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One has a washer (2mm) (Rear Sensor). The washer emulates the thickness of the ring or lip (2mm) at the top of the metal tube (shield) that the other sensor (Forward/Flywheel) slides in putting them at the same height in the bracket. The tube is for starter wire intererence intruduced because the early 944s would misfire when cranking. It would't really matter if you had two stacked up, as long as you got your gaps correct. Early sensor brackets didn't use a tube or washer.
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Originally Posted by staplebus
huh... does anyone else have any input. im going to order new sensors asap but may need one more...
lee101315 or anyone else, can you explain why only one spacer? onspeed, what did they say about two spacers... thanks!
I was told by someone on here that both of the sensors should have a spacer. Apparently I was misinformed, but I haven't encountered any problems with both sensors being seated ontop the washer.

My bracket is the older style I think, '86 car, I'm not sure if that makes any differences. But it doesn't have any tube. If it didn't originally come with a washer, then I just increased the sensor gap by 2mm from stock...
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alright got it, spacer on the rear sensor. thanks everybody!
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Could someone confirm that an '86 951 is only supposed to have a spacer/shim/washer on the sensor closest to the firewall? I put a washer on both, assuming they both had one, and I'm thinking about removing it to see if it's the cause of my car running rich. Just don't want to end up with a broken sensor and copper crap in my bell housing...
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We already did. The washer is there on the one because the other sensor has a sleeve.
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the cause of my car running rich.
Now check your O2 sensor.



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