Advice needed- preparing for turbo upgrade
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Hey guys, just got my Vitesse stage 3R kit! Before I start on the turbo install I would like to have most of the extras covered so that I can minimize down time. I plan to order the following parts before I get started:
-LR venturi delete kit w/intake manifold gaskets
-New fuel lines (will be running E85)
-Dual port wastegate
Anything I'm missing? Should I order new O ring seals for the water/oil lines? How about exhaust gaskets?
-LR venturi delete kit w/intake manifold gaskets
-New fuel lines (will be running E85)
-Dual port wastegate
Anything I'm missing? Should I order new O ring seals for the water/oil lines? How about exhaust gaskets?
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-A 3-4 inch exhaust to flow all that extra air. (okay, not a "necessity," but you know you want it)
-3bar/adj FPR? (dunno what V3R requires/comes with)
-Larger Injectors (72-83 lb/hr)
-Fuel pump (Bosch 044 or Walboro GSL 392)
-WBO2 for fine tuning of the piggy back
-Boost Controller
Dunno what all you have/John has set you up with, but I would consider all of the above "required" if you want to be on the safe side of everything/do the job right, once, the correct way.
For the misc engine parts, I'd tear the old turbo out and assess from there. You don't want to order a bunch of parts you don't really need (unless you're me, where I'd order every gasket/rubber bit/hose, but I also have suuuuper OCD). It's impossible to tell what needs replaced without breaking into it.
I'm sure others will have some better suggestions than me.
-3bar/adj FPR? (dunno what V3R requires/comes with)
-Larger Injectors (72-83 lb/hr)
-Fuel pump (Bosch 044 or Walboro GSL 392)
-WBO2 for fine tuning of the piggy back
-Boost Controller
Dunno what all you have/John has set you up with, but I would consider all of the above "required" if you want to be on the safe side of everything/do the job right, once, the correct way.
For the misc engine parts, I'd tear the old turbo out and assess from there. You don't want to order a bunch of parts you don't really need (unless you're me, where I'd order every gasket/rubber bit/hose, but I also have suuuuper OCD). It's impossible to tell what needs replaced without breaking into it.
I'm sure others will have some better suggestions than me.
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. I do have all of the supporting mods- exhaust, injectors etc.
I guess I'll just have to tear into it and see how the gaskets and misc hoses/lines look. I assume most of the exhaust gaskets are reusable if they're in good shape?
I guess I'll just have to tear into it and see how the gaskets and misc hoses/lines look. I assume most of the exhaust gaskets are reusable if they're in good shape?
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Ah, okay. You're already $xxxx deep, and if you're like me and only want to do a job once, I'd spring for the gaskets, nuts, bolts, studs, whatever could possibly break/already be broken. If only for piece of mind knowing that if they are boogered up I won't have to wait 2-3 days for them to come in the mail, and it's a nice feeling to have a section of the car basically new/better than now. No "what ifs" when you're out beating on the car, if you know what I mean.
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Yeah, I'm with you. That seems like a solid plan. I found the turbo hardware kit on Rennbay for only $42 http://www.rennbay.com/exhaust-turbo...all-p-145.html
Is there a turbo gasket kit available or do I need to order each one individually? This stuff sure adds up quick!
Is there a turbo gasket kit available or do I need to order each one individually? This stuff sure adds up quick!
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this would also be the time to decide if you want to run wet or dry turbo.
Dry cleans up a whole ton of garbage underhood. Requires a new hose and NA coolant tank.
Also the time to consider engine mounts if you are on old ones.
Dry cleans up a whole ton of garbage underhood. Requires a new hose and NA coolant tank.
Also the time to consider engine mounts if you are on old ones.
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BMWs got me in the habit of ordering every damn part that had to come off or was near something I had to take off. Friggin plastic parts of E36, E46, and E39s, and suspension bits, and interior bits, and window regulators, and electrical bits, and and and... I'll be glad when BMWs are out of my life
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Before you start - COVER THE HOLE IN THE BELL HOUSING, now....
while you're in there -
AOS o-rings, since the intake and turbo will be out of the way, PITA source of oil leaks.
Time to check your S&R sensors, if wires are cracking, time to replace - be carefull with the bolts and pay attention to where the shim goes - great lighting helps here.
check the indexing of the turbo, check it before mounting it, get it close, wrenches to lock it down and time for new turbo mounting bolts if you can work that in.
I too am a fan of dry turbos, cleans up a whole lot of $hit, frees up working on belts, front seals, etc, just keep clean oil
hoses - intake is off, the back heater hoses and the neck out of the head are accessible, don't miss the opportunity, as well as the heater valve if you need it - again, cheap stuff with good access at the time.
while you're in there -
AOS o-rings, since the intake and turbo will be out of the way, PITA source of oil leaks.
Time to check your S&R sensors, if wires are cracking, time to replace - be carefull with the bolts and pay attention to where the shim goes - great lighting helps here.
check the indexing of the turbo, check it before mounting it, get it close, wrenches to lock it down and time for new turbo mounting bolts if you can work that in.
I too am a fan of dry turbos, cleans up a whole lot of $hit, frees up working on belts, front seals, etc, just keep clean oil
hoses - intake is off, the back heater hoses and the neck out of the head are accessible, don't miss the opportunity, as well as the heater valve if you need it - again, cheap stuff with good access at the time.
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Great info guys! Keep it coming.
I've been thinking about running the turbo dry. I understand that I will need a N/A coolant tank but what else is required? Do I simply cap off the water pump and Turbo inlet/outlet?
I've been thinking about running the turbo dry. I understand that I will need a N/A coolant tank but what else is required? Do I simply cap off the water pump and Turbo inlet/outlet?
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Then you can ditch all the turbo cooling pump, plumbing crap, the hard line crosover pipe, etc,etc