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Old 07-06-2010, 01:57 AM
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Tear into it, its not that difficult. IIRC, the 968's use different wiring (not that different, but the colors of the wires changed between the two cars). Since I went the non-power mirror route, I didn't have to deal with it, but I would think you would extract the pins out of the connectors that are on the 951 mirrors, and then use the connector body to plug in the pins from the 968 mirror motors, and then it will connect to the factory harness with no issues. Its really pretty easy and as long as you draw out the wiring diagram on paper ahead of time, its straightforward.
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Hi, The link below might help out with your mirrors. It has some good details and pictures.

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...tallation.html

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You may be able to transfer that stuff over from your flag mirrors
No 944 stuff is totally different(much better) than 968 ones. Porsche made manual version of these mirrors to 968 CS model.

You are missing these parts



What comes to installation instructions of these mirrors, there's no need of any "special tools" (check this picture)




When you just need a socket extension, and powerful hands.It just takes few seconds per mirror to assemble them



A bench wise makes it even easier.

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Originally Posted by docwyte
You're right, that's obsessive. Eat a half a sandwich less, I'm sure that will make up more than the weight difference.
I'd rather have that second half of a sandwich than power mirrors.

Originally Posted by sh944
Weight difference between manual and powered ones is pretty minimal, maybe 6 ounces per side. Whether that is significant or not depends on your definition of "significant".
Was hoping for more, at least half a pound per side. Good to know, thank you!
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Originally Posted by docwyte
You're right, that's obsessive. Eat a half a sandwich less, I'm sure that will make up more than the weight difference.

Back on topic, what am I missing and what do I need to be able to mount these to my car?
Funny tangent…a bunch of years ago John Force (top fuel funny car racer and ‘big guy’) realized that they were spending thousands of dollars on titanium this and that to take each pound off the car. So he went on a serious diet / training program and lost about 50 lbs….
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So I'm missing two cam bolts and 2 springs and my current flag mirror ones can't be reused? If I can't reuse my flag mirror stuff, what are the part numbers of those cam bolt/springs so I can order them?

Do I need to pop off the mirror glass to see if these 968 mirrors are power or not?
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Yep, pop off the mirror glass. Have to have motors & wires back there. No point in worrying about cam bolts if they aren't power...
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Just pull the mirror glass right off Greg? If they're manual I won't need the cam bolts?
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Assuming the 968 glass attaches the same as the 944 glass, tilt the mirror all the way in at the top and then take a small screwdriver and slide the plastic ring that holds it in place. And yes, if they're manual (and I suspect they are but hope I'm wrong) then you don't need the cam bolt.
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Its easy to tell if they are power or manual –the power mirrors will be stiff and notchy to adjust the mirror position, the manuals will move freely.
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Well, good news, bad news. The good news is that they're power mirrors, I was able to see the wiring harness in the drivers side mirror.

The bad news is that I cracked the drivers mirror glass trying to get it out of the housing.

So where's the best place to order new glass? I'll order a set, just in case I crack the passenger side mirror too...

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sunset I would imagine would be cheapest.
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Damn, the glass isn't so cheap! Sunset wants $75 for the drivers glass, $90 for the passenger! Waiting to hear back from Jason at Paragon, they sell the whole damn kit for $360. Mirrors, bolts, wiring, etc, etc.

The harness wires are cut on my mirrors, I don't have the plugs. I assume I can cut the plugs off my current mirrors and splice them onto the 968 ones?
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You should be able to use your plugs from the existing mirrors and you will just have to figure out the wiring on the 968 as it is pinned out differently than the 944, IIRC there is an extra wire as well.
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Originally Posted by docwyte
That should be coming out the bottom of the mirror, right? I don't think Porsche made these as manual mirrors, only power.

Can the harness be tucked up inside it somewhere? If so, how can I get to it, or at least see if there's wiring tails or a plug?
The backs of the mirror glass connect to an elctrical "cradle" if you will. That should have wiring. The wiring from you existing mirrors has to be modified and connected to the 968 wires, in the mirror. You already have the 4mm allen bolt that afixes the mirrors to the body, just reuse the one you have. I went to radio shack to get the crimps, etc for the mirrors.


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