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Old 04-11-2010, 08:18 PM
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Default PS Intermediate shaft converted to manual

Has anyone converted a power steering intermediate shaft to manual?
I thought it could be possible by cutting the shaft in halves, siding a pipe sleeve over the ends and welding together.
This would be done in a jig to keep alignment and U-joint clocking as there appears to be a 5-10 degree twist from end to end.
Reason I ask is I have a manual shaft with some play in one U-joint, but have a perfect PS shaft. It's just too short obviously.
What do you think??? Possible?
Old 04-11-2010, 08:25 PM
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No reason it will not work. Just make sure your welds are strong.
Old 04-11-2010, 08:31 PM
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Yep, you're betting your life on those welds. I wouldn't want to lose control of steering at 120+
Old 04-11-2010, 08:43 PM
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I did this friday... I took pictures... Now, where did I leave that camera?
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Van - would love to see those pics...how did you hold the U-joint clocking from end to end?

931guru - that's definetly the BIG question. I suppose you could side the sleeve over the shaft far enough to drill a small 1/8" hole through the sleeve halfway through the shaft at both ends, install a pin and tack that in.
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Here are the pics:

I have a lathe, so making this coupling wasn't too hard. I machined slots down the side so I'd have more "welding surface area". I actually assembled everything, put the tapered pin into centering hole on the rack, made sure my steering wheel was straight, then tack welded the coupler in place. After removing it from the car, I wrapped wet towels around each u-joint to ensure they didn't get over heated from the welding.









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That isn't breakin..
a bit of black pipe and some angle grinder work could get there but if you want to show off OK .
as they look to be at right angles you could pack up any 2 parallel parts of the ini joints and clamp it to the bench .
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Van, you do good work.
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Thanks Doc - my life depends on this one!
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Originally Posted by PorscheDoc
Van, you do good work.
x2. Van is the only other person allowed to lay a wrench on my car
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i did one recently for the v8 car. I like your setup Van. We drilled two holes in each end of the pipe and did a plug weld, then welded the ends. Same result though. Just make sure the weld penetrates very well.
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That's impressive, Van. If I lived closer to you I would probably still have the 951... Some to help me fix all the stuff that I was too chicken to do
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That is very nice Van, I like the idea of the slots increasing weld contact. Unfortunately I don't have the turbo off to tack it in the correct position. I'll need to fab a jig to hold at the correct length and position to weld up.

Thanks for posting the pics.
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You'll see in the pictures that I painted a white line along the length of the shaft before I cut it - that was my plan "B".

Fergus, if you lived closer, I might have gotten you into a 996 sooner!!
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Hey Van was that 1018 or Chromoly? I'm modding a PS shaft for a V8 swapper for 3/4" X-member drop. How is it holding up? Thanks, Rob


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