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Old 02-15-2010, 01:02 AM
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Default KW V3 ride height recommendations

The KW V3 installation notes specify a range of 305-335mm ride height for front (measure from hub centre to wheel arch), and a range of 325-355mm rear.

I was a bit surprised to see the 20mm difference in spec front and back. Before installing the KWs, I was about 335mm all around (and I always thought the 944 suspension was designed to be set-up pretty "flat").

Any comments?

BTW, at the highest ride height setting (50mm exposed thread on shock), the KWs ride at 370mm hub to wheel arch before any other adjustment, such as reindexing. This suggests a reindex aiming at a 15mm overall lowering is indicated. The pleasant surprise is that I can adjust these down to an acceptable ride height by the thread adjustment even before I get around to reindexing! Indeed, whether or not I will even want to access the bottom half of the range is an open question at this point -- certainly I wouldn't want to go that low for street use.
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20mm isn't that much of a difference, but I also don't like to have our cars sit too high in the rear. They get a bit floaty in my opinion. If you really can adjust down without re indexing it might 'sit' down further once driven. Perhaps that brings it back to flat?
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Thanks, Patrick. Just out of interest, what ride heights are you runnning?
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because of the tow change you need to give the car a shuffle back and forth so it settles into a ride height after each adjustment.
Also i think Pats comments of floaty are related to higher speed stuff (Pat ? )
also the rear is generally set higher so it doesn't squat to much when your gassin it ..
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I couldn't tell you my ride heights at the moment Mark. Car not in such great condition. In fact before the crash, we found that the car was set too low and I was getting into the bumpstops too much, so we raised it up. All the suspension will go into another car in about 2 weeks so we'll have to see what it looks like and play around with it some more.

As Adam says, you almost should drive it between adj if you can just to settle things. I have seen our cars look floaty in the rear, but that is on the track and at speed. The V3s should negate a lot of squat, but what I and most others find is that you just seem to gain a lot of traction with them also.
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I'm bringing my car to Sydney and gonna learn ya some some bout traction
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Originally Posted by Mark944na86



Any comments?

The pleasant surprise is that I can adjust these down to an acceptable ride height by the thread adjustment even before I get around to reindexing! Indeed, whether or not I will even want to access the bottom half of the range is an open question at this point -- certainly I wouldn't want to go that low for street use.
Comments ?, I already told you this on your previous post.
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Originally Posted by Mark944na86

I was a bit surprised to see the 20mm difference in spec front and back. Before installing the KWs, I was about 335mm all around (and I always thought the 944 suspension was designed to be set-up pretty "flat").
Mark, 335mm seems to indicate that perhaps your rear tbars were already reindexed by a PO. I think mine were closer to 360 before I reindexed and added coilovers.

After reindexing they vary but around 345-350mm.

I had the corner weights checked and it was out by around 17kg between diagonals (me in car and 2/3 tank). Take out 20kg of fuel to reflect how I normally run and I'm guessing that would reduce to around 10kg difference. Here in right hand drive land we have the slight disbenefit of sitting on the same side as the fuel tank. I wonder if thats why the put the battery in the rear left?

I wonder what a stock S2 would corner weight at, given that the suspension was non adjustable?
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Originally Posted by Eric_Oz_S2
Mark, 335mm seems to indicate that perhaps your rear tbars were already reindexed by a PO. I think mine were closer to 360 before I reindexed and added coilovers.
Yes, the car had been lowered about 1" (25mm) from stock front and back, so 335mm vs 360mm is consistent with that.

The main thrust of my question was regarding the height difference front and back -- mine was pretty flat (which I thought was also the case with the stock set-up), but the KW specs suggest 20mm higher in the rear.

What is the relative height front and rear you are running with your current coilover set-up?
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Lowered the rear so that it is about 350 at rear/335 at front. Feels good! Taking advantage of a bit of rain this evening, I took it out to a spot where the rear will usually break away with even a hint of rain. No break away! So an apparent improvement with respect to a bit of inherent oversteer in my previous set-up.

Actually, I'm impressed with how much of a difference the KWs in the rear makes -- if anything, the difference is more even noticable than the difference from replacing the front struts. I really didn't expect that.

This is shaping up to be a very promising upgrade over my previous set-up. Early days yet, but so far, so good...
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I'm at 305mm front and 317mm rear (KW V3 no Tbars).
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Originally Posted by DVC
I'm at 305mm front and 317mm rear (KW V3 no Tbars).
That's low for street! You must have better roads than ours around here...
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Originally Posted by Mark944na86
That's low for street! You must have better roads than ours around here...
Probably too low for our streets as well

Car not in such great condition
Your slate grey Patrick?? Damn, sorry to hear that!!
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Originally Posted by DVC
Probably too low for our streets as well



Your slate grey Patrick?? Damn, sorry to hear that!!
Travis, I had mine set very low. Looked great and probably ok for the street (although some driveways were a hassle) but we found out that it was too low and was affecting the handling a lot but mostly on the track. We raised it by 20mm but from what to what I don't have to hand.

Yes, GO951 is pretty sick at the moment. We will be transplanting all the hardware across to GO952 in the next few weeks.
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
I couldn't tell you my ride heights at the moment Mark. Car not in such great condition.
Sorry Patrick, I'd missed all of that. My late condolences -- but glad to hear that things are obviously looking up! GO952 is a clever name.


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