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Old 01-08-2010 | 08:43 PM
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Wussies!

Here is how real men deal with winter….
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Old 01-08-2010 | 10:03 PM
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944s and cold, wet winter roads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgJ7J9JU0Wk
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Old 01-08-2010 | 11:23 PM
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Such a shame to see that car crash, although I was more worried for the dog. Personally I don't take the 951 out on winter roads. I always have a designated winter beater. Winter roads are just bad for cars.

I watched a Boxster get totaled in Port Jervis 3 days ago. The car slid around and put the nose under the guard rail. Hit 2 of the posts that hold up the rail. The car was really messed up. The car couldn't have been doing 35mph.
Old 01-09-2010 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by minho78
Uhmm I have been driving for 13 years, Uhmm does that sound inexperienced to you? Used to drive 600 miles a week between Jersey and NY.
Spend some time at DE's and you'll learn a lot about car control and understanding what your car will do in different conditions. You can drive another 13years and 600 miles a week between NJ and NY and never learn any of that.
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Originally Posted by ibkevin
I'm guessing the cold air under the bridge surface didn't help.



LUCKY Jeff, I don't know what the hell they put in your road surface there but that stuff is slick year 'round. Except maybe mid August.
Kevin this was after the Bridge.
Old 01-09-2010 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ninefiveone
Spend some time at DE's and you'll learn a lot about car control and understanding what your car will do in different conditions. You can drive another 13years and 600 miles a week between NJ and NY and never learn any of that.
Uhmm so you think just because you DE you have better skills then a regular driver. Wait I forgot I even have a defensive driving certificate from Boston Coach back in 99. Plus I have driven Trucks up to 30000 Pounds(Hydraulic brakes), and I'm JCB certified machine operator by the State of NJ also back in 99 to 2000. Man I'm really a rookie.
Old 01-09-2010 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 951_RS
LFA is actually a tool, so to him everyone is inexperienced
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Old 01-09-2010 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by minho78
Uhmm so you think just because you DE you have better skills then a regular driver.
Well, generally speaking there is some truth to this! Many of my students have commented that DE events have sharpened their street skills.

Give it a try…you will agree!
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
944s and cold, wet winter roads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgJ7J9JU0Wk
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he looked to be going a little fast for the conditions
Old 01-09-2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
Well, generally speaking there is some truth to this! Many of my students have commented that DE events have sharpened their street skills.

Give it a try…you will agree!
Chris I know that DE will help for sure.
Fine I'm a bad driver.
Old 01-09-2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dillon410021
he looked to be going a little fast for the conditions
Yeahh poor dog though. He's jumped from the truck like "Damn, what was this guy thinking".
Old 01-09-2010 | 01:25 PM
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It reminds me of Dane Cook's stand-up talking about watching a car wreck... If you've seen it you know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by minho78
Chris I know that DE will help for sure.
Fine I'm a bad driver.
It's not that you're a bad driver. F1 drivers had to train to be as good as they are. Assuming you bought the 951 because it was a high performance car... what's the problem with getting some training to make the most of it?

After your first DE... come back and tell us if you're a rookie. I've been instructing DE for nearly a decade. There is a world of difference.
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Originally Posted by ninefiveone
It's not that you're a bad driver. F1 drivers had to train to be as good as they are. Assuming you bought the 951 because it was a high performance car... what's the problem with getting some training to make the most of it?

After your first DE... come back and tell us if you're a rookie. I've been instructing DE for nearly a decade. There is a world of difference.
True. How much does a session cost. Right now I'm almost broke, I just bought a House in greenburgh/White Plains NY.Freacking 20% plus all the BS closing costs took all $$$$$$$$$ from me.
Old 01-09-2010 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by minho78
Uhmm so you think just because you DE you have better skills then a regular driver. Wait I forgot I even have a defensive driving certificate from Boston Coach back in 99. Plus I have driven Trucks up to 30000 Pounds(Hydraulic brakes), and I'm JCB certified machine operator by the State of NJ also back in 99 to 2000. Man I'm really a rookie.
Um, yes, people who DE or Race or even autocross have WAY WAY WAY more vehicle control experience than those who do not. You can argue this all you want, but you will be wrong. You go and do some autocross and DE and get used to getting your car sideways at will, and you will come back and admit you were wrong.

Having 10 or 20 years driving experience just means you've been driving for a long time. It doesn't mean you know how to *really* drive a sportscar.

We have 60, 70 and even 80 year old porsche owners coming out to their first DE's and Autocrosses and saying that they didn't imagine that they would have so much more to learn about driving.


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