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Old 12-02-2009, 01:56 AM
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So I'm under the car bleeding the slave with the Motive power bleeder. All seems to be going fine when I start to hear a tinkling sound -- like fluid leaking somewhere. Seeing nothing on the floor, I keep bleeding for a minute until I figure out what it is. The clear hose on the Motive bottle sprung a leak where it is clamped to the bottle -- it was shooting a stream of brake fluid half way across the garage, all over the fender and into the storage shelves in my garage. Super fun.

So, take a close look at that tube before using. If it's kinked at all, time for a new one....
Old 12-02-2009, 03:50 AM
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I will keep that in mind, thanks Tom.
Old 12-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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I don't fill the Motive with fluid, just use air at 10 psi.

If a hose breaks, I lose air, not a jet of brake fluid.
Old 12-02-2009, 09:09 AM
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Damn, that sounds like one of my nightmares. Did it mess up the paint on your fender?
Old 12-02-2009, 10:25 AM
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Ive heard that happen before, Im not using mine until I replace the hoses now. Scary...hope your paint is OK.
Old 12-02-2009, 10:44 AM
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I've seen a couple of hoses burst and hose the front of the cars with brake fluid. I only use a vacuum pull air assisted system now. Much more efficient and zero mess. My motive hasn't been used in 5 years I bet.
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The new Motives have a swivel fitting on them so the hose doesnt kink.
Old 12-02-2009, 11:15 AM
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OK - for those of us contemplating replacing the hose, is there a better hose material that would stand up to brakefluid?
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Paint seems to be fine -- I scrambled and grabbed the first thing I could, Simple Green. Then water, paint cleaner, new wax. Seems to be ok, I just worry where else the fluid got that I may have missed. Time will tell.

I'm glad to hear they have a swivel now -- has that been out a while, or do I need to hunt to make sure I've found a place with that version?

As for a better hose, I imagine just about anything would be better than that clear plastic they used. Motive's own caliper draining jars have a nice soft silicon tube that seems perfect -- you can still see into it, but its very flexible compared to the clear plastic tubing.
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I have used every type of bleeder (Motive included) and have found that without a doubt if you have the man power (2) to manually bleed the brakes then it is the best option.
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Originally Posted by Fishey
I have used every type of bleeder (Motive included) and have found that without a doubt if you have the man power (2) to manually bleed the brakes then it is the best option.
Agreed!
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Originally Posted by PorscheDoc
I've seen a couple of hoses burst and hose the front of the cars with brake fluid. I only use a vacuum pull air assisted system now. Much more efficient and zero mess. My motive hasn't been used in 5 years I bet.
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I've got one too and works great.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
Paint seems to be fine -- I scrambled and grabbed the first thing I could, Simple Green. Then water, paint cleaner, new wax. Seems to be ok, I just worry where else the fluid got that I may have missed. Time will tell.

I'm glad to hear they have a swivel now -- has that been out a while, or do I need to hunt to make sure I've found a place with that version?

As for a better hose, I imagine just about anything would be better than that clear plastic they used. Motive's own caliper draining jars have a nice soft silicon tube that seems perfect -- you can still see into it, but its very flexible compared to the clear plastic tubing.
I dont know how long its been out, I just bought mine recently (used to use a hardware store hacked together one). They have retrofit kits with new hoses on their website though I think.
Old 12-02-2009, 01:35 PM
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Swivels are 1.50 and hose is .75 per foot... on their site....

http://store.motiveproducts.com/shar...unt2=537131905

I vacuum bled the brakes on my dodge, felt like crap, still had air in them because of the bleeder screw design, went and bled them with the motive, AWESOME... flushed all the air in 10 minutes, and I didn't even have to pull the wheels to do it! I love my motive... and now have adapters for it for all my cars...
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I built a bleeder with air tool parts and a garden sprayer from Home Depot. I do not put fluid into it as I hate the mess brake fluid makes and it is damaging to paint and skin.

With an air QR on the air line to the cap you can maintain pressure in your sprayer but whip the MC cap off to add more fluid as needed. Very easy. I have a male QR fitting JB-welded into the MC cap. The QR works as a swivel also.

-Joel.


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