ShApE

Why do these pulleys cost $186.00


and these plugs for a balance shaft delete kit cost $200.00


I'm not an expert when it comes to machining but I don't see how materials plus the machining adds up to 200 dollars for these plugs.

Not bashing anybody, I realize you gotta make money but this just seems a little crazy.

Skip Wolfe

Volume - I assume they sell a lot more pulley kits than bs deletes.

ShApE

Ok I was being a little unfair. It's $186.00 for 2 of the pulleys and 387.00 for the whole set. I just have a hard time paying 200 dollars for something so small just cus no one else makes it.

David Floyd

Supply/Demand simple economics

JET951

Well if they are the only ones making it(could be other) i think they can charge what they like. its not as if you have to purchase them. you could try and make 1 set of each and see how much that will cost you? I realise we dont have many aftermarket supplies for these cars, but it could be worse... we may have none.

V2Rocket

i think more r/d goes into making even those pulleys than you realize

m73m95

Exactly. You're not only paying for the actual parts, but you're paying for the time it took to design them.

theedge

CNC time isnt cheap. Its cheaper per pc to do 1000 parts than 100 or 10.

eniac

Same reason companies sell stage 1 chips for $250, stage II chips for $325 and stage III chips for $395 when the only difference is a few numbers in whatever software they used through thier eprom(This one bugs me the most!!!).

Same reason the simple exhaust in ours cars are twice what more complicated dual exhaust systems are.

Same reason for insane prices on fuel lines, IC pipes, MAF systems, solid mounts, and control arms.

Same reason companies sell turbos for "our" cars at 3 times the cost of what you can buy the same turbo for directly from a place like Michigan Turbo or Majestic Turbo.

The reason....people continue to pay it like it's an expected premium for modding a Porsche. No one will spend that kinda of money for Honda Civic parts and thus aftermarket pulleys and exhausts are dirt cheap in comparison. If one can make $100 extra off something and people buy it, then of course it will continue to sell for that.

dillon410021

good points

JohnKoaWood

To the OP..

It is misleading to compare our cars with a car that was made en mass... There have been more Honda Civics made each of the last 20 years, than the total volume of 924-944-968 cars made total from 75 to 95... that means the Civic parts SHOULD be cheaper, as the market for them is much larger, refer back to earlier post where it was listed that it is cheaper to make 100 then 10, and cheaper to make 10 then 1. If you want a civic buy one... mod away...

TURBOS... buy your turbo from a different place, why do you think the "kit" vendors (LR, Vitesse, etc..) keep the specs of their turbos close to the chest? THEY did the work to make turbo X work in a kit for our cars... this includes chips , flow rates, etc... it is a significant amount of work to make it all gel.. different turbos are not plug and play... try it once, and you will reconsider your decision to try it at all...

NOW..Chips... there is a little more flexibility here than in some other areas... you CAN do stand alone, but it can be expensive.. I have been using MaxTune and an Ostrich... a little more than 1 set of chips, but I have full control of the software on my car.. and can even use an EEPROM if I so choose...

What it all boils down to is... If you don't like the price of admission, don't come to the dance... plain and simple... If it was cheap everyone would have one...

1st rule of engineering, often overlooked by AM car part suppliers, but at least they fall by the wayside quickly:
You can have it cheap, fast, or good... You may also have any two of the 3 together, but NEVER all 3 at the same time.

If you want it tomorrow, and a good part, it won't be cheap, if you want it tomorrow and cheap, it won't be good, and if you want it cheap and good, you won't have it tomorrow.

black944 turbo

Eniac and Shape, I agree with you guys completely. I understand supply and demand thing, but still vendors make a killing on us. As John said this is unfortunately part of owning these cars and we have to accept that or not mod.

944obscene

We drive Porsches. Wanna tell me why a supercharger kit for a BMW can be $10K? Still wrapping my head around that one. "Hey here's a boost kit that costs more than some people's cars!"

rlm328

My bs delete plugs were made by Dortmund.

Fishey

It has cost me much more then that for pulleys...