Cory9584

Does anybody sell the bilstein coilover kit without the rear springs? I'm going to keep my torsion bars and upgrade them.

ehall

No such thing. Escort Cups are coil overs. Springs are the coils.
You can buy bilstein rear coil overs and springs separately, from anyone, but they don't work without springs.

gt37vgt

looks to me* like he* wants* rear* shocks or dampers only ... i don't think he realisea that helper springs are similar cost or cheaper th
an torsin bars .

Van

I see no reason why they *wouldn't* work without springs (e.g. with torsion bars). A damper is a damper. If you put in heavier torsion bars so the wheel rate was the same as the Escort cup setup, the dampers (shocks) will see the same force and load.

ehall

That's not what he's doing. He's keeping his T-bars. So, the hypothetical concept is pretty much a moot point.
He either needs conventional shocks, or coil overs with the proper spring rate to meet his goals/needs.

BUT...you already know that. Now stop cnfusin stuff!

TonyG

A shock is a shock, is a shock, is a shock...


In this case the spring rate is provide by the torsion bar rather than the coil spring.

Assuming the torsion bar used provides the correct range of "effective wheel spring rate", there should be zero difference.

This is a very straight forward deal.

The "sticky" part would be when you try to combine a torsion bar with a coil spring to get the the correct spring rate. But that's not the case here...


TonyG

Cory9584

I wanted to put in 30mm torsion bars. In the original post i meant to say i wanted to keep the rear suspension a torsion bar setup but upgrade the torsion bars, not keep my original torsion bars. Sorry for the confusion

gt37vgt

for the rear 30 series konis are 150 each and all ajustable I think a few guys here have them and are real happy and I've seen tham even cheaper on ebay now and then i think they might be 3012's some one here will tell you