Unlimited Boost + Raised Idle after turning boost to 17psi
#1
Unlimited Boost + Raised Idle after turning boost to 17psi
I was testing my car out @ 17psi after running it all night at lesser pressures no problem.
After running it for a while I switched to fifth gear and unexpectedly overboosted, and heard a weird sound which I can't describe but it did not sound like it came from the engine. After that, my car had no boost limiting, which I assume means the WG isn't opening.
The weird thing is now the idle is bumped up to around 2100 rpm.
Anyhow I got under there and inspected all of the vacuum lines between the WG, intake, and MBC - everything looks okay. Out of curiousity I disconnected the line from the intake, and I plugged the hole - the idle stayed very high. As I let more air into the hole, the idle would drop lower.
Does this sound like a vacuum leak, or more like an obstructed vacuum line?
After running it for a while I switched to fifth gear and unexpectedly overboosted, and heard a weird sound which I can't describe but it did not sound like it came from the engine. After that, my car had no boost limiting, which I assume means the WG isn't opening.
The weird thing is now the idle is bumped up to around 2100 rpm.
Anyhow I got under there and inspected all of the vacuum lines between the WG, intake, and MBC - everything looks okay. Out of curiousity I disconnected the line from the intake, and I plugged the hole - the idle stayed very high. As I let more air into the hole, the idle would drop lower.
Does this sound like a vacuum leak, or more like an obstructed vacuum line?
#4
I checked the one to the throttle body. I checked the blow off valve, I plugged in a bunch of semi-loose ones under the intake manifold going to the fuel pressure regulators/fuel pressure dampers and then to the blow off valve.
I'm not sure what the ISV is - If this is the cycling valve, I deleted that.
I checked the lines going into the J-Boot, they seem okay.
When I deleted the cycling valve, I plugged the J-Boot with a bolt and tightened it down real tight. If this were leaking, could I see this behavior?
I also checked the throttle position sensor and throttle to make sure they weren't just messed up, they seem fine. I played with the idle screw some and couldn't get it to go below like 1800 rpm.
#5
Rennlist Member
I think he means check the function of it... make sure the diaphragm inside hasn't been torn to bits by the high boost pressure.
#6
Well it isn't stock, it is a new unit about 5k miles old. I'm not sure where its from but its new and shiny. I'll take a look at it in a bit, but would a messed up blow off valve raise the idle like this?
#7
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It shouldn't matter if that air goes through or around the turbo charger.
I'd look for air getting into the manifold post-throttle body. Like the nipples for the idle control stabilizer, brake booster, vacuum lines, etc. (I once had a brake booster nipple come out of the manifold...)
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#9
Well it WAS working fine, and then it just stopped working. I have double checked the lines, they are all in place and they all seem like they are on fine. There are a couple that were really hard to get on - so I'm wondering if they might be kind of popping leaks under high pressure without coming off of the nipple. They aren't on the nipple very far.
#10
If you're using the same vac hose that came with the MBC, thats the same stuff I'm using. I made sure that they were fully seated on the nipples. Mine haven't had any issues. If you need some extra vac hose, I have tons.
#11
Thanks, I've got plenty for now I just actually couldn't get the hose on the nipples that came with my Tial very far. The install for me was insanely difficult because of the 1-piece X-over was causing the wastegate to hit the torque tube. So I was trying to put those hoses on the nipple at the most ridiculous angle, I got it on as far as I could and then put some zip ties around it. I'm planning on taking the wastegate off again soon to fix some of the shoddy work around there.
#12
Yeah I've been looking pretty hard for leaks, I am thinking I might have to just pull the intake manifold again and run new lines, zip tie up all the existing lines, etc. I have huge hands, I just can't seem to do anything without pulling the manifold!
#15
Yeah I have checked everything I can check without pulling the manifold
I can't really get at the ISV, I can see it and the lines look like they are going into it just fine.
I took out the intercooler to intake manifold pipe and checked all those lines, triple checked the vacuum line to the throttle, checked everything I could really get at. Hooked it all back up.
Its weird when I start the car it idles at the correct RPM for a few seconds, and then climbs up to the higher RPM and stays there.
The thing I'm having a really hard time checking are the brake vacuum lines, because I don't really know what they look like (the brake components). I was trying to figure out which ones they are by following vacuum lines but I'm losing them under the manifold.
I can't really get at the ISV, I can see it and the lines look like they are going into it just fine.
I took out the intercooler to intake manifold pipe and checked all those lines, triple checked the vacuum line to the throttle, checked everything I could really get at. Hooked it all back up.
Its weird when I start the car it idles at the correct RPM for a few seconds, and then climbs up to the higher RPM and stays there.
The thing I'm having a really hard time checking are the brake vacuum lines, because I don't really know what they look like (the brake components). I was trying to figure out which ones they are by following vacuum lines but I'm losing them under the manifold.