Tom M'Guinn

2765/2479 = 11.5% increase, so figure about that in power, all things equal.

Theory may tell you otherwise about rod angles and such, but when I went from 2479 to 3019, that represented an increase of about 22% and my HP went up by a little more than 22%. Tough to compare apples to oranges since my new motor included bigger cam, different turbo, better tuning, etc.

Lorax

That's why you put in big strong steel sleeves.

What kind of power are you plannin on making that you are going to have headlift? And maybe i'm not too keen on this... but how does wall thickness make headlift more likely

For those that have very high power cars... at what power level does head lift come into play on ours?

Allot of people run overbore cars with sleeves. The steel sleeves are very stong, and very resistant to damage from a variety of factors.

There are two options.... Dry sleeves and wet sleeves. On retains part of the original cylinder and a new steel sleeve is pressed in.

With a wet sleeve, the entire old cylinder is removed and a new steel sleeve is pressed with an oring seal. Many people have opinions as to what is best.

Lorax

As for other ways to spend... if you really just want to empty your wallet then you could look into cam/head.

Or just hang onto that coin and spend it on suspension or something cool.

tone3721

Suspension is pretty sorted, 250 # springs, koni adjustables, 968 castor blocks, forget which sway bars. My parts car has all new bushings, and control arms. Should make a nice mix n match suspension for zero.

My specialist seems to shy away from bigger valve head.

Lorax

idk.. for the cost of sleeving/stroking a motor you could buy some really cool stuff... like sfr stage 2 headers and a full coilover suspension. lol

tone3721

Whats the difference with "full coil over"? Headers are cool....wouldnt be much gain tho would they?

Lorax

A coil over system genrally offers a much more modern suspension in terms of adjustability, just to start.


Look at the KW's allot of people are putting on their cars these days. They have allot of features that are impossible to just get just using some stiffer springs and fatter sway bars. All the elements of a good suspension are important, but a nice coilover system can transform the dynamics of a car.

that sounded really official.

spoolin51

What about Investing in:
2.7 head
Cams/Cam gear
Stand alone
3" downpipe/exhaust
Strengthening the block

tone3721

Already have 3" exhaust. Do the 2.7 heads bolt straight up? What do the kw systems run? How would I strenghten the block? Sleeves? Im on the kw site, but noy sure my options.

tone3721

Ok, hmmm, KW has many choices. Im likin these, wonder which one would best suit my needs. Should be a almost entirely street car. Cant say I wont ever hit the track tho, with great certainty.

spoolin51

2.7 does require some work. You will need to change intake manifold/exhaust, and some other stuff.
IMHO, CEP makes a really nice block guard Contact (Evil944t)

Lorax

Seems like the majority of people stick with the variant 3's

do a search, there is much info

spoolin51

Have you considered E85?

tone3721

I have considered e85, but not readily available, at every pump yet. Would mostly be a street car, dd, but not overly ridden.

tone3721

Yeah the v3's are lookin nice. thats just the coilovers tho right? Still uses my sway arms, bushings, etc? Just replaces strut/spring? For the price of a stroker, I could do kw's, and paint from inner windows out, with new seals, everything.