blodstrupmoen

'okay so I just had to try the Spec FW togheter with the Kep 1PP and 930 disc. Seems like it is not giving enough travel to disengage the clutch properly..


Anyone else tried this combo ? Seesm like Ivai was right about the 930, Kep pp and Alu FW combo kep pp , 930clutch and fidanza thread
Btw both thrustbearing and fork was brand new.

anyway.. go back to stock FW or buy a Cup disc?

333pg333

Thanks for the headsup. Though people have run this setup before ok?

Mike Lindsey

The flywheel is a flat plate, whether the stock, SPEC or Fidanza. Your problem does not
lie with the flywheel and changing it will make no difference in the travel or engagement characteristics. It's the disc or the PP. Likely the PP since most "discs" are the same thickness
to start with.

How much free travel is in your pedal before the clutch starts to actuate or move? If more then
1/2", adjust the pedal.

blodstrupmoen

thanks for the reply Mike ..

I shall go to the garage to do some more checking and correct measurment. According to Ivai and Jason @ Paragon the 930 clutch is 1mm thichker than the cup disc. But then again 1mm shoud still make it within +/- 17mm travel.

blodstrupmoen

Okay .. thinking I`ve screwd something up here. There is just 13mm release travel .
But the release lever would botttom out in the clutch housing.

the release lever would only go out another 2-3mm when removing the slave cylinder.
Maybe it went a bit too fast when putting togheter he he ..

Checked the pedal play according to manual and it`s fine.

Opeth

hmm

TRP951

I had that setup on my car before i went with the clutchnet 6puck instead but it dissengaged for me

blodstrupmoen

yees... done a couple of 944 clutch jobs with no problem , but this was just to try this combo and we where two trying to get things going in a hurry..

No biggie it`s just to remove some small stuff and see whats wrong

blodstrupmoen

It was my brother that mountet the clutch plate, pp and FW and he is sure he did it correct. He is so sure that he`s giving me a case of beer if it turns out to be wrong..

btw is it possible to put the clutch plate in the wrong way ? ..

It`s either the clutch plate or the PP .. nevertheless it has to come appart.

TRP951

mine would dissengage but I had minimal if any at all play in the thrust bearing, but if you had some decent amount of play thats less travel for the clutch

guards red 951

yeah, it's possible to mount the clutch disc wrong way. my spec disc have a little sticker on one side(the flat), that show witch way that is going toward the FW.

this side is going toward the PP..



but not so sure on the 930 disc though. but I think its the same thing..

blodstrupmoen

I can`t remeber if there where and much play .. I know I replaced the thrust bearing last year though .

I was hoping not to end up buying another clutch disc to make this work cuz the 930 is almost brand new . But then again I do want the alu FW.

reno808

i am going to be testing a fidanza, 6puck no springs with a stock almost new pp to see how that holds up with lots of boost lol.

Ski

Here is a comparison shot Cup PP and disc, KEP II and 930 disc. This is on Jim's 2.8L red car, 3 years now, no problems so far. The car has a lightened factory FW.

blodstrupmoen

yees.. everything seems to indicate that someone screwd up something *cuff*

Just wondering if I shall order some parts so that I could do this in a quick in and out operation. The lift is currently ocupied with a couple of Bmw`s undergoing some serious surgery. ( not my M5)

btw , i forgot to mention .. When we started the car it ran fine , but the clutch was still a bit weird thinking it needed some more bleeding . But we managed to drive it to my other garage with no probem. The nest day It would not disengage.

Ski how much did you lighten the stock FW ?
According to Mike Lindsey FW type should not matter , but then again a lot of post here on Rennlist says otherwise.