Tms951

There seems to be alot of speculation about what are times are going to be. A little whila ago I put together a spread sheet of a number of supercars and thier HP per metric ton. In this I also put a stock 1986 951, DFASTEST951 car, MY car and RolexNJs old car. Here is the thread I posted LINK .

I have now added in as many 1/4 and 0-100Kph as I could around Speacial Tools HP per Ton, I also threw top speed while I was at it. It defantly looks like at Special Tools claimed power levels he has a 10 second car that should trap in the 130s. And now that he has launch controle set up 60' should be no problem for him, he made it sound pretty good.

Based on the numbers in the spread sheet I would be very happy to run an 11.9 in the low to mid 120s. with a 2.2sec 60'

here is the spread sheet, the only way to upload it is as a text document it can be cut and pastedinto excel.

LuisGT3

That is a lot more realistic than 10's and 130+. The 11.9 and mid 120's would be a phenomenal time for a 944T. I am not familiar with any running faster times than that (Are there any?) As you know, Power and weight (or lack there of) are 2 very important ingredients in making a car go fast down the quater mile, but they are not the only one's. Traction (Which seems to be the biggest issue with high hp cars), Tires (traction again), gearing, driver, track prep, DA, temperature, attitude are other factors that can significantly change the time that any particular car can run. I ran my GT3 for ****s & giggles out here in AZ back in December. It was about 90 degrees, the track was not prepared well (coupled with a 1500 ft altitude at the track in AZ.) My best run was a 12.4 at 113mph. Here is the vid. Make sure you guys get some videos, I love this stuff.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=2

A.Wayne

On street tires a best of 11.7 @133 mph...........( not drag radials , regular street tires )

MPD47

My car trapped ~120 last year, you should be faster than that.

95ONE

Street tire.......= Lame.

Good luck going faster than 12's. MPH isn't even going to reflect power. So much spin. .... Just no point.

At this point, I'm going to give winnings to the guy with the least power. It's actually controlable with street tires.

Please. Please. please use something sticky. Just don't launch like John Force. get out there, THEN floor it. Without sticky tires, All of second. Most of third is going to suck. If for anything. Have sticky tires for those gears and baby the launch. (Where most trannys / axles are broke)

You've done us proud ST.... Now get out there and make it stick!

95ONE

In your 951!? Damn! Awesome.

lart951

Mr. Wayne, let me offer you the hand of my beautifull 19 year old daughter , you are my hero.

Are you Tony G's papa?

LuisGT3

Sweet! That MPH is VERY impressive. Any vids?

95ONE

good thing you didn't bet him. You'd be eating HIS turds!!! ewwwwww.

(unless he's not talking about his 951 that is)

A.Wayne

Err, guys , thanks , but that was my prediction of ST's 1/4 pass if he runs his power numbers..........lart i'm still interested in your offer

We had tried the drag thing on a big hp 951 once , turned on the launch control and lunched the axles , they are weaker than Jap axles , go figure.... when ST said he would use street tires , I know why .......
we had looked into using 930 axles with the necessary mods to make it happen , but the customer changed his mind and the 1/4 thing never happened....

NZ951

Sorry but how do you quantify 951 axles are weaker than "jap axles'...

2bridges

tool is a wise grasshopper Slicks on ANY 500+HP IRS car is a gamble.
Drag cars run a four-link solid axle setup for good reason.

A.Wayne

i have made many passes on high Hp japcars and the axles hold up better than , 951 ,944 axles, they are really weak , we change and service them after r 20 hrs track time just To be safe.... The jap axles will break , but you will get multiple 10 sec passes before they snap , the 951 , a launch control start with slicks , yes for a moment .... Use 930 axles if this is your way ...

A.Wayne

Not really , 930 axles hold up pretty well......

NZ951

I did dozens of passes with DOT rated slicks in my 944 and no axle issues, thats at 365WHP.

I just object to the term Jap axles. Not every Jap axle is better than a 951 axle, I have seen lots break on EVO's etc without huge HP as well... it comes down the the stress on the launch.