So with the S2 tranny at 7,100rpm we break 200mph?????
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968 01E will hit aprox 330kmh at 7000 if I remember correctly
a8/a6 01E will hit 361kmh at 7000rpm
some of the 01E models has exactly the same speed(gearing) in 5th as 016R
a8/a6 01E will hit 361kmh at 7000rpm
some of the 01E models has exactly the same speed(gearing) in 5th as 016R
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Originally Posted by Ken D
It took Ruf ~470 hp @ 5950 rpms + ~2535 lbs in a narrow-body 911 Carrera to exceed 200 mph in the original CTR, aka Yellowbird.
Compared with the 951, the narrow-body 911 has a smaller frontal area (19.60 square feet vs 19.88) and lower drag coefficient (.320 vs .330).
Compared with the 951, the narrow-body 911 has a smaller frontal area (19.60 square feet vs 19.88) and lower drag coefficient (.320 vs .330).
Also, 5,950 vs 7,200K makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Yea, but didn't the Yelloe Bird go well past 200 though????
Also, 5,950 vs 7,200K makes a big difference.
Also, 5,950 vs 7,200K makes a big difference.
As a further comparison, the 996 GT1--which is very much a full-race car with the minimal required equipment for road license--topped out at 193 mph.
Even with the proper gearing, you will need to push out significant HP to achieve 200 mph, and even then I don't know if the car will be limited by aerodynamics. Or what modifications to the body, suspension, etc would be required to achieve 200 mph.
But you can give it a shot and let us know how it turns out.
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Just get one of these older ones or look at some newer models.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_6wCRu8zaM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_6wCRu8zaM
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The 01E bolts up, if you look at the Audi bell housing it's the same as the Audi 944 bell housing (as in it has weird holes for the started and clutch, etc). The Audi/Porsche 968 01E bolts up to the 944 torque tube also (I know, I did it yesterday). They are both good for over 200mph if you turn ~7500rpm and have a large tire (295/30R18, 285/35R18), and of course, the power to get there. I would not consider even doing it without a decent front splitter/undertray and a rear wing to match. I'll take the extra drag and potentially not get there over having the car float around on me.
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Originally Posted by Ken D
As a further comparison, the 996 GT1--which is very much a full-race car with the minimal required equipment for road license--topped out at 193 mph.
To hit 200mph it will either take a ton of power or something like a 10 mile straight with not so much power! In reality, it's going to take a ridiculous amount of power due to time constraints. You're not likely to have enough time to floor it and hit 200mph without either (A) getting caught by the cops, or (B) hitting a K wall on a track and flipping end over end 72 times because you're on stock brakes trying to threshold brake from 200mph into a 90 degree turn! IMHO, 200mph on the street (pretty ridiculous to be doing on the street IMO) isn't realistic for anything except something like 800-1000+whp street cars as once they'd get traction, generally the sheer level of acceleration would get you towards 200mph pretty quickly so you can get back down to "normal" speeds that much more quickly. It's somewhat the same story on most tracks, as long straights are usually only so long.
Just FYI but, I've seen several dynos of CTR's in the past, and it seems they generally dyno close to the rated 469hp though at the wheels, so they are pretty underrated.
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Originally Posted by MPD47
The 01E bolts up, if you look at the Audi bell housing it's the same as the Audi 944 bell housing (as in it has weird holes for the started and clutch, etc). The Audi/Porsche 968 01E bolts up to the 944 torque tube also (I know, I did it yesterday). They are both good for over 200mph if you turn ~7500rpm and have a large tire (295/30R18, 285/35R18), and of course, the power to get there. I would not consider even doing it without a decent front splitter/undertray and a rear wing to match. I'll take the extra drag and potentially not get there over having the car float around on me.
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The 928 transmission is big and will not fit without the use of a tiger saw.
IIRC the DEVEK white car did 211 mph with some aero mods, a tad over 400 rwhp (not sure on that one, ask Marc Thomas, might have been close to 450 rwhp) and a final drive of 2.2 (1987 S4).
IIRC the DEVEK white car did 211 mph with some aero mods, a tad over 400 rwhp (not sure on that one, ask Marc Thomas, might have been close to 450 rwhp) and a final drive of 2.2 (1987 S4).
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The 928 transmission is big and will not fit without the use of a tiger saw.
IIRC the DEVEK white car did 211 mph with some aero mods, a tad over 400 rwhp (not sure on that one, ask Marc Thomas, might have been close to 450 rwhp) and a final drive of 2.2 (1987 S4).
IIRC the DEVEK white car did 211 mph with some aero mods, a tad over 400 rwhp (not sure on that one, ask Marc Thomas, might have been close to 450 rwhp) and a final drive of 2.2 (1987 S4).
SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH - Anders, please!
Letr's not mention tiger saw with Mike around....
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Btw, if anyone is interested in making a 951 trap over 200 mph I would like to join in on that project. I've travelled at 205.1 mph through those traps at the Pony Express but not yet in a Porsche.
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Originally Posted by special tool
SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH - Anders, please!
Letr's not mention tiger saw with Mike around....
Letr's not mention tiger saw with Mike around....
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please read this info on 01E
http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/Por968/
http://www.elektro.com/~audi/
http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~audi/01E/
you get 01E FWD in misc diesel FWD audis
a8 even has a cooling loop.
the different cars had different gearsings, some closer and better than others.
http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/Por968/
http://www.elektro.com/~audi/
http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~audi/01E/
you get 01E FWD in misc diesel FWD audis
a8 even has a cooling loop.
the different cars had different gearsings, some closer and better than others.
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Originally Posted by MPD47
The 01E bolts up, if you look at the Audi bell housing it's the same as the Audi 944 bell housing (as in it has weird holes for the started and clutch, etc). The Audi/Porsche 968 01E bolts up to the 944 torque tube also (I know, I did it yesterday). They are both good for over 200mph if you turn ~7500rpm and have a large tire (295/30R18, 285/35R18), and of course, the power to get there. I would not consider even doing it without a decent front splitter/undertray and a rear wing to match. I'll take the extra drag and potentially not get there over having the car float around on me.
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Originally Posted by MPD47
I would not consider even doing it without a decent front splitter/undertray and a rear wing to match. I'll take the extra drag and potentially not get there over having the car float around on me.