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Old 03-22-2007, 01:21 PM
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how about also affect boost based on the same changes?

apparantly, joe says aem only has two settings?
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nize
how about also affect boost based on the same changes?

apparantly, joe says aem only has two settings?
He might be refering to fuel quality or boost controller settings.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:10 PM
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the wolf has infinite fuel quality and boost controller settings, as you can swap maps on the fly without shutting the motor down, and you can do this even without a laptop. boost also has variable adjustment/settings in realtime from a remote control.

this is interesting though. a while ago i compiled a list of features and which ems had what. i think i'll compile an updated feature list. it makes no sense for a $7k ems to have just two settings for anything.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
Just got a price estimate on an AEM system. Am off my rocker or is about $7,000 way too much? How much is everyone paying. I also found out that it has two settings for different sea levels but as far as i know, Vitesse engine management automatically adjusts to all sea levels for air and fuel. I must be missing something.

What does that include? Awhile back I spoke to Chris Carroll @ Turbokraft about an AEM setup for my Carrera. Apples to oranges I know but for a complete plug n play system, 2 piece quick disconnect fully terminated harness, fuel injectors of my choice, and all of the typical sensors (map, IAT, wideband, tps, etc) it was around ~$4.5-5k, though his prices might have changed somewhat so don't quote me on that. For a complete AEM setup, what I was quoted is about the norm for a complete setup for most cars that require a custom harness among other things (basically cars not specifically supported by AEM). The ecu alone is around ~$1500-2000+ depending on the application. $7k sounds a bit too high, however if that includes dyno tuning and isn't just all the parts then $7k sounds relatively close IMO. If $7k is just a plug and play setup and parts only then that sounds about ~$3k too high. I would only pay $7k if that was an entire setup with maybe some extras like fuel system upgrades, and a full tune (not just some quick wideband "auto" tune).

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=63

Another nice thing about the AEM is it has quite a few optional items. You can convert to a CDI/coil on plug ignition setup, you can convert to full sequential injection (of course you'll have to re-wire the injector harness), knock control....and the list goes on.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:29 PM
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I think for 7 grand you can a Motec or a Haltech for that price. Hell I can prob get the Haltec and installed of that price. I know the Spot
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I know everyone really loves spending money. I'm one of those people, but with the most recent changes, Megasquirt is a viable, expandable solution. While it does not have sequential just yet, it is in the works, and sequential is simply there to get, what, that extra 4%?
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:22 PM
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I am into my megasquirt setup for under 1K....
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
I know everyone really loves spending money. I'm one of those people, but with the most recent changes, Megasquirt is a viable, expandable solution. While it does not have sequential just yet, it is in the works, and sequential is simply there to get, what, that extra 4%?
Fully sequential allows you to get a good idle ouf of really big (96lb) injectors.
It also allows for cylinder by cylinder tuning.
That being said - its not really needed on most applications
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Originally Posted by nize
the wolf has infinite fuel quality and boost controller settings,
Sorry to interupt the infomercial - but what the hell is an Infinitely adjustable fuel quality setting?
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Originally Posted by Chris White
Fully sequential allows you to get a good idle ouf of really big (96lb) injectors.
It also allows for cylinder by cylinder tuning.
That being said - its not really needed on most applications

Yes, Chris, I stand corrected. The big injectors are need for the relatively smaller motors with big boost. As I said, its in the works.
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Originally Posted by AlexE
I am into my megasquirt setup for under 1K....
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i'm assuming the 'two settings for fuel' means you can swap between two fuel maps on the fly. if you can swap, say, ten thousand fuel maps on the fly, what would you call it?
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Originally Posted by nize
i'm assuming the 'two settings for fuel' means you can swap between two fuel maps on the fly. if you can swap, say, ten thousand fuel maps on the fly, what would you call it?
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:05 PM
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Hmmmů.are you saying that the system holds 10,000 maps and you can switch from map to map with the twist of a simple ****? Interesting.
BTW ľ adjusting for fuel quality requires altering the timing and A/F ratios by load and rpm ľ its not a simple adjustment
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