What is needed for Tial install?
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I have searched the forum and have found a lot of great info on wastegates and the Tial 38mm in particular. What exactly is needed for the istall? The 38mm are selling on ebay for $200. Speed Force Racing is selling them for $370(incl. adapter kit).
How did you guys install yours? Do you have to have an adapter kit?
Thanks
How did you guys install yours? Do you have to have an adapter kit?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by pk951
Here is a place www.europartsetc.com 315$ with adapter plates.
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Required Parts
- Tial Wastegate
- Adapter Plates (or an exhaust already adapted for the tial)
- Set of new mounting hardware
- Safety Wire & Pliers or Red locktite (Much debate over which is better)
- Time and effort to remove the old wastegate
Purchased mine from europarts, couldnt be happier.
- Tial Wastegate
- Adapter Plates (or an exhaust already adapted for the tial)
- Set of new mounting hardware
- Safety Wire & Pliers or Red locktite (Much debate over which is better)
- Time and effort to remove the old wastegate
Purchased mine from europarts, couldnt be happier.
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>>Great, looks like a good deal. I'm tempted to go for the 46mm but I just don't know if it's worth the extra $$$<<
All I can tell you is I have Tial 35-mm no problem with holding boost. If you go on the Tial Web they have more info. The 46mm is more for high HP 400RWHP I'am sure people will chim in on that one.
All I can tell you is I have Tial 35-mm no problem with holding boost. If you go on the Tial Web they have more info. The 46mm is more for high HP 400RWHP I'am sure people will chim in on that one.
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Originally Posted by TurboMojo
Great, looks like a good deal. I'm tempted to go for the 46mm but I just don't know if it's worth the extra $$$. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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The 46 is pretty too!
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If i was you i would use the copper gaskets and remember on the 951 they hook it backwards. What do you have EBC or MBC??? I also used high temp locktite so far so good. you need the dounut gasket that goes on the inlet pipe that bolts up to the wastgate. One more thing and the most important thing is lotts of time and lotts of pb blaster. goood luck. BTW what year is your 951??
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Originally Posted by reno808
If i was you i would use the copper gaskets and remember on the 951 they hook it backwards. What do you have EBC or MBC??? I also used high temp locktite so far so good. you need the dounut gasket that goes on the inlet pipe that bolts up to the wastgate. One more thing and the most important thing is lotts of time and lotts of pb blaster. goood luck. BTW what year is your 951??
I'm now searching frantically to find out how to install the FPR? Does anyone have a link to this info? I'm a little nervous; I have never done it before.
Thank you for all the great info on the Wastegate, that is the next purchase.
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Pauerman was selling a very nice Tial 38 kit I bought about 6 weeks ago. Came with everything including stailess steel adaptors, pre-assembled and safety wired, with all hardware with drilled heads for safety wire. $10 more for SS gaskets. You still need a copper gasket for the inlet side. $320/kit. You might want to check with him.
http://www.pauertuning.com/
http://www.pauertuning.com/
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18 months ago I got a Lindsey dual port wastegate.. It started sticking, so I ditched it on ebay 3 months later.
Then I replaced it with a Tial 38 with the adapter plates... But had all kinds of problems of things jangling loose (no support bracket like the Lindsey or the standard one)
Then my local specialist and 944 tuning parts guru developed a kit to mount a Tial 38 and another for the tial 46 to the 944 turbo.. Both kits include replacement pipes leading ono and off of the wastegate, which include some anti reversing thing that I dont understand.
So I brought their Tial 46 kit, along with a Tial46 and have seen it to be money well spent.
I went for the 46 rather than just buying his tial38 kit for my 38, because he recommended that the 38 was only good for up to 350BHP and my car at that point was pushing out 330bhp (flywheel corrected)
The Tial 46 is apparently the one to go for if your seriously planning on passing the 350 BHP mark (which my car did about 2 months ago and now has 365 bhp)
Interestingly, I have just fitted one of his wastegates to my 964 turbo, which I hope to be testing after the weekend.
Did you know these poor little air cooled cars only boost to 0.7 bar as standard? compared to my 944 turbos current 1.3 bar! Yet to get the 911 upto its current 1.0 bar, has been a nerve racking and expensive journey to do with safety! (more so than the bolt on tuning on the 944 turbo to date!)
Then I replaced it with a Tial 38 with the adapter plates... But had all kinds of problems of things jangling loose (no support bracket like the Lindsey or the standard one)
Then my local specialist and 944 tuning parts guru developed a kit to mount a Tial 38 and another for the tial 46 to the 944 turbo.. Both kits include replacement pipes leading ono and off of the wastegate, which include some anti reversing thing that I dont understand.
So I brought their Tial 46 kit, along with a Tial46 and have seen it to be money well spent.
I went for the 46 rather than just buying his tial38 kit for my 38, because he recommended that the 38 was only good for up to 350BHP and my car at that point was pushing out 330bhp (flywheel corrected)
The Tial 46 is apparently the one to go for if your seriously planning on passing the 350 BHP mark (which my car did about 2 months ago and now has 365 bhp)
Interestingly, I have just fitted one of his wastegates to my 964 turbo, which I hope to be testing after the weekend.
Did you know these poor little air cooled cars only boost to 0.7 bar as standard? compared to my 944 turbos current 1.3 bar! Yet to get the 911 upto its current 1.0 bar, has been a nerve racking and expensive journey to do with safety! (more so than the bolt on tuning on the 944 turbo to date!)
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Originally Posted by WesM951
Steve,
What exactly is the Saftey Wire used for?
What exactly is the Saftey Wire used for?