What is needed for Tial install?
08-10-2006, 12:42 PM
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Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by smiths944t
O crap I guess i should plan to put my 38mm on. LOL its been on the shelf for like 4 months now. 
How much time does it take to put one of these on assuming you have all the right hardware?
08-10-2006, 06:05 PM
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Burning Brakes
At least no one's said that they hear their wastegates blow off between shifts yet, like all the Road & Track and Car & Drivers writers do when they write about turbo cars.
08-11-2006, 06:10 AM
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"People who rate wastegates by a maximum amount of horsepower are confused."
Following your post I marched into my local Porsche tuners workshop and confronted him with this (on my high horse)...
Shortly afterwards I was eating humble pie.. It turns out that if your using a standard diameter turbo crossover pipe, as you pass 350BHP the exhaust gas temps get so high due to pre turbo gas pressure that the 38's tend to suffer due to lack of cooling fins found on the 46 tial. He then showed me two Tial 38's with cracked bodies which were on 375bhp and 380bhp cars, so to be safe he now recommends Tial46 wastegates for all cars after 350bhp and standard crossover pipes.
The trip wasnt a waste though, he also showed me something really cool.... a 944 turbo with a 3.2 8 valve engine and another 944 turbo 3.2 engine half built.. As well as a 968 with a 2.8 8 valve turbo engine and a 968 in the process of recieving a 3.0 8 valve turbo engine... So I kind of now trust what he has experienced with tial 38 wastegates.
I also spent some more money and brought one of his fantastic quickshift kits, but I had better not tell the wife!
Following your post I marched into my local Porsche tuners workshop and confronted him with this (on my high horse)...
Shortly afterwards I was eating humble pie.. It turns out that if your using a standard diameter turbo crossover pipe, as you pass 350BHP the exhaust gas temps get so high due to pre turbo gas pressure that the 38's tend to suffer due to lack of cooling fins found on the 46 tial. He then showed me two Tial 38's with cracked bodies which were on 375bhp and 380bhp cars, so to be safe he now recommends Tial46 wastegates for all cars after 350bhp and standard crossover pipes.
The trip wasnt a waste though, he also showed me something really cool.... a 944 turbo with a 3.2 8 valve engine and another 944 turbo 3.2 engine half built.. As well as a 968 with a 2.8 8 valve turbo engine and a 968 in the process of recieving a 3.0 8 valve turbo engine... So I kind of now trust what he has experienced with tial 38 wastegates.
I also spent some more money and brought one of his fantastic quickshift kits, but I had better not tell the wife!
08-11-2006, 07:50 AM
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yeah, bought mine from pauerman, but haven't installed it yet either. I wish some of you guys were in TX so we could all get together and knock them out on a Saturday or something. I feel so clueless when I'm working under my car. Just laying there stairing up thinking how cool everything looks and wondering what stuff does.
08-11-2006, 11:31 AM
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I spend too much time under my car, just ask my room mates.
I had an alighnment at a local Porsche shop. The tech asked me what I have not done on my car since it all looks like it has been worked on recently.
I had an alighnment at a local Porsche shop. The tech asked me what I have not done on my car since it all looks like it has been worked on recently.
