Timecerts or Helicoil?
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Timecerts or Helicoil?
I have used helicoils in the past but don't feel as impressed with them. I know timecerts are 3 times the $$ but I guess if we worried about $$ we wouldn't be driving these cars.
What are your opinions on both? I guess the initiall cost of the kit is the big hit but the inserts are not too bad for either system.
Opinions please.
Thanks.
Raj
What are your opinions on both? I guess the initiall cost of the kit is the big hit but the inserts are not too bad for either system.
Opinions please.
Thanks.
Raj
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I have helicoils on my engine. No problems. I always use lock tite red when installing.
Check out this link for good discussion:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35826
Check out this link for good discussion:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35826
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I have used both. At the BMW dealership where I work, we use Timecerts exclusively. Personally, I like the helicoils better. Either one works fine, but I think it's a matter of personal preference and experience. I have more experience with helicoils so that is what I use for myself.
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The helicoil can do the job, but I think the timesert is superior product. I used them on my 911 case for the case studs and was impressed with the quality of the product. I also purchsed a M6 x 1.0 kit which is nice to have around as this size thread on Porsches has given me the most problems. It is my impression that a timesert in softer metals is superior to the original theads. When installed the threads are expanded to lock it into place and the top has a flange the stabilizes the insert and also leaves a clean flush appearence. In areas around moisture if creates a solid barrier and you will have less problems with corrosion of studs or bolts since the metals are now more similar. I agree they are way too expensive and it may take a lifetime of wrenching to justify the cost, but this is a product a 951 on this site clearly deserves.
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There is a good discussion about timeserts in Bruce Anderson's 911 Handbook. He explains how they are stronger for high-torque applications, like head studs. Helicoils work great for run-of-the-mill stuff though -- my intake is riddled with them.