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Old 10-24-2005, 03:06 AM
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Question Bar to PSI conversion

OK, I’ll admit it. I’m a newbie at this turbo stuff so please bear with me.

The conversion info I got is 1 bar = 14.5 psi.

The factory manual reads: “maximum boost pressure of 1.75 bar (absolute value) is reached at approx. 3k rpm…” It also states that the “charging pressure indicator in the vehicle tachometer shows charging pressure in bar absolute pressure”

So does that mean that when the boost gauge reads approx 1.75 bar it is actually indicating around 25 pounds of boost???

Even to a non-cognoscenti such as myself that seems like a heck of a lot of boost.

Will someone please explain where I’m going wrong.

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:32 AM
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Nope! The factory gauge reads vacuum, then boost. So at 1bar you are at atmospheric.

Get the right gas and tuning and you could run 25psi, just as Special Tool

Where abouts in CO are you?
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So then: at 3k rpms = .75 bar = 10.875 psi

Meaning that up to 1 bar is vacuum, 1 bar is atmos. and past 1 bar there is boost pressure?.

Leadville, very little atmos up here.
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You are correct!

Yeah you're way the hell up there, I only know bits and pieces around Loveland/Ft. Collins.
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Your conversion factor is correct but the pressure you're referring to is total, not in excess of atmospheric. The factory spec. for boost level is 1.75 bar +/- 0.05. You need to subtract atmospheric pressure from the 1.75 bar to obtain the boost level - this varies by area, elevation and temperature.
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Default 2 bar boost

so what boost is being ran @ 2 bar? I bought my car from someone who did a lot of in house mods, and the turbo is putting down 2 bar with stock turbo, stock exhaust, minor head work, air box removed and replaced with k&n type filter (like I said...in house i.e. garage mods) and a chip set ( unknow chips - just replaced with Lindsey but switching to Vitesse as soon as I get feedback about how the lindsey chips run). So at 2 bar what boost was I running?
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At 2 bar you're running 14.5 x 2 = 29 psi minus whatever atmospheric pressure is in your area at that time (usually about one bar), so assuming a "perfect" situation where atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi you'd be running 29 - 14.7 or 14.3 psi of boostage.
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Well I'm going out on a limb here since I'm still trying to understant all this (others please correct me) but I would have to say 2 bar = 14.5 psi?(absolute pressure, what a gauge would read?)(at sea level?)
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Thanks all, little grasshopper feels much enlightened now.

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Total manifold pressure = atmospheric pressure + boost pressure
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So lemme see if i'm getting this. TheoreticallySpecial tools 25 psi is actually about 10 psi above atmosphere? or am I getting this wrong? I HATE math
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Well the way I'm understanding it , yes. 14.7psi of what the gauge reads is atmospheric pressure (at sea level) the rest is boost. So I'm guessing that is why you get lower psi rattings when doing a compression test at 5K feet as opposed to doing it at sea level. Corrections pleaaaaaze????
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No, Special Tool's 25 psi of boost is 25 psi above atmospheric pressure. Therefore, 14.7 psi + 25 psi = 39.7 psi of total intake manifold pressure.
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Aaaaarg Ok then, so if you have an aftermarket boost gauge installed on your car and its reading 25psi it is basically ignoring the atmospheric pressure? It is just meassuring additional pressure above atmos???


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