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Old 10-06-2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Konstantin
have you or anyone else ever saw a writen document where Porsche say that you must replace them?

I never saw something like this but I heard from others many times

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That is why i asked about the factory studs Kons, never seen anything in the manual that says to measure/replace them. Just coat lightly with engine oil, before installing the cylinder head and tightening it down.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
What spec would you be measuring against? Porsche says to throw them away...
I guess I was wrong. I never looked and just decided to go with new hardware.
Old 10-07-2005, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Konstantin
have you or anyone else ever saw a writen document where Porsche say that you must replace them?

I never saw something like this but I heard from others many times

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I would have bet money the factory manual says to "always replace" head studs, but I just looked for it and could not find anything. I may be guilty of my own pet peeve -- advancing untrue rennlegends. I'll keep looking though.
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My car is at a dealer for a blown HG and they have not said anything about having to replace the head studs. I have thought about it though and I will ask them tomorrow.
Old 10-10-2005, 06:55 AM
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I asked the mechanic at the dealer and he said it was fine to reuse the old studs.
Old 10-10-2005, 12:17 PM
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But how many times can one re-use the stock studs since they stretch?
Old 10-10-2005, 12:24 PM
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Ok a bit more OT but what about O ringed and ARP studs? Retorque or not? When I put the head on last week I torqued them down and then loosened and retorqued them to ARP specs (65 ftlbs? I think)
Old 10-15-2005, 08:14 PM
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Update. yes you need to retorque as I gambled and mine blew after about a half hour of driving
Old 10-15-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by badcoupe
Update. yes you need to retorque as I gambled and mine blew after about a half hour of driving

Hmmm, if you blew if out after half hour, you have to wonder if something else was wrong? Is the torque wrench new or recently calibrated? Raceware says to fully heat cycle it before re-torquing, and I know some builders recommend several heat cycles (up to 1k miles).
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Originally Posted by azmi951
Ok a bit more OT but what about O ringed and ARP studs? Retorque or not? When I put the head on last week I torqued them down and then loosened and retorqued them to ARP specs (65 ftlbs? I think)
From the ARP website,


"Because the head gasket will compress upon initial torquing, make sure studs and bolts are re-torqued after the engine has been run."


I used a MLS gasket, ARP headstuds and did not re-torque as the MLS does not compress.
Old 10-15-2005, 10:29 PM
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yeah I ran a it a bit and finally drove it today for the first time. the nutas weren't at proper torque when I took it apart here's a pic of the gasket



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