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Old 06-19-2005, 10:26 PM
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Ehall, J Chen, what happened with Powerhaus? I missed something...
Old 06-19-2005, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Hi TurboStar,
Sorry about this but I was just **** off by Powerhaus
as they're suppose to have much experience in the 951.
With the increase capacity that you have, I think the
turbo would be max out by 15-16 psi. Going 18 psi
would be meaningless.
Chen,

No problem....dont worry about it. Once I have the car tuned at Devek we will know for sure whether the turbo gets maxed out at 16PSI or not. Stay tuned for the update......

As for Powerhaus well I am still unsure if they recommended the wrong turbo or not....seems some people are really sure its not the right turbo and some say it is.....if they did screw me then I think the only decent thing for them to do would be to replace the turbo with the correct one (free of charge of course) not that I want something for free but I think this would be the decent thing to do.......not to mention the good PR they woudl get becuase right now they are getting slammed pretty hard by some of you.......
Old 06-19-2005, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
Ehall, J Chen, what happened with Powerhaus? I missed something...
DFAST...,

Seems some people are of the opinion Powerhaus recommended the wrong turbo for my set up..........you can read back through the thread to get the details......but basically they recommended me to put in a K27/6 for my 2.8L Andial engine.

I think your car was completely built by Powerhaus right? Whats your opinion?
Old 06-19-2005, 11:03 PM
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The K27/6 is for sure too small. If you can get them
to replace with at least the K27/8 that would be fine.
I'm sure Sweanders would agree with me on this &
so would the rest. With the K27/8 you should be making
minimum 340 rwhp at 18 psi with very little lag & have
lots of torque. Provided the engine is a true 2.7L.
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Hey Star, yeah my car was entirely built by Powerhaus. Here's my two cents worth. I believe no matter what you do you should stick to one builder, tuner. Powerhaus' priority number one is engine life and longevity. Second, they tend to be apprehensive about recommending performance parts on a motor that someone else built. If it blows by mixing and matching parts, people tend to blame it on them.They have made a lot of their money fixing other peoples cars that were mixed and matched. Huntley trashed motors and the ones that ended up at Powerhaus were in need of total rebuild.They would have to actually get into the motor and see what's been done exactly to give you their advise. If that's what they said and others say that's not the correct one, they may have been conservative to make sure you don't stress the motor too much. Also, their parts aren't like other parts. They buy parts, take them apart and customize everything. It may seem like a K27/6 but it will outperform other k27/6 turbo's. I don't tune my car, never tinker with it. That's what I wanted. Also, David (owner of Powerhaus) has 90k on his motor, same motor as mine. It will last forever. I would stick with Andial. They are a very reputable builder. Go with what they say. They know the motor. That's my opinion. Good luck.
Old 06-19-2005, 11:17 PM
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Whoa, I just went a few posts back and I wanted to tell you that Powerhaus never screws people. They also don't give parts away for free. They take trade in's on their parts when you want to upgrade but never give anything away for free. I can tell you that for sure. That's why you take your motor to them to build. It comes with a warranty. That's assurance, not free.
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Andial doesnt work on the 951 anymore. They built this engine in 1991. I dont know any places here in Nor-Cal that specialize in tuning and building 951 engines. Of course Devek is starting to get into the 951......anybody know a good tuner in the Bay Area.
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Hmm. Start researching tuners, builders. See who wants your business the most. Good luck.
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Ok, here is another one taken before tuning...
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Ok, here is another one taken before tuning...
Max TQ not realized until 4400 on your 2.5L? Interesting...
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Well, a couple of things TimexNJ... did you read that it was before tuning? Why is it interesting, do you have a technical contribution or are you just trolling again? Thirdly... You are only making 400ft pounds of torque at 460HP on your lag monster... proportionatly MUCH less then my measly 320ftlbs on a 2.5 at 327HP... now thats interesting!
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Well, a couple of things TimexNJ... did you read that it was before tuning? Why is it interesting, do you have a technical contribution or are you just trolling again? Thirdly... You are only making 400ft pounds of torque at 460HP on your lag monster... proportionatly MUCH less then my measly 320ftlbs on a 2.5 at 327HP... now thats interesting!
It was just an observation, that's all. Nothing negative was said unlike your comment above. You are reading into it.
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Ok, so what is your obsveration TrolexNJ? Whats your technical contribution?
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Originally Posted by NZ951
You are only making 400ft pounds of torque at 460HP on your lag monster... proportionatly MUCH less then my measly 320ftlbs on a 2.5 at 327HP... now thats interesting!
Torque primarily depends on cylinder volume, boost pressure and compression ratio. Since both seem to run 18 psi and I guess you have similar compression ratio the only difference is cylinder volume.
400x2.5/3=333 which is not that different from 320.


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