Is higher boost really safe?
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I guess I shouldnt tell him my bolt on car with the stock turbo and 2.5ltr motor puts out 301rwhp and 341rwtq.
Like I said at 245rwhp thats a chipped stock 2.5ltr running 15psi and pump fuel. Looks like you are now being totally honest and looks like you are getting the help you need. Just becasuse powerhaus recomends something doesnt mean ****. Remember most vendors will only sell what they have...they dont care whats best for you or your application.
Get yourself a decent tune and dial up the boost some. Maybe your higher 300's to the wheels #...see if thats what you want.
Then ditch that small turbo and put on something with some kick. You should be all over 400hp on 18psi of boost and pump fuel with the right setup. You could drive that everyday.
and 245rwhp to 400 is a big deal. Take it one step at a time
Like I said at 245rwhp thats a chipped stock 2.5ltr running 15psi and pump fuel. Looks like you are now being totally honest and looks like you are getting the help you need. Just becasuse powerhaus recomends something doesnt mean ****. Remember most vendors will only sell what they have...they dont care whats best for you or your application.
Get yourself a decent tune and dial up the boost some. Maybe your higher 300's to the wheels #...see if thats what you want.
Then ditch that small turbo and put on something with some kick. You should be all over 400hp on 18psi of boost and pump fuel with the right setup. You could drive that everyday.
and 245rwhp to 400 is a big deal. Take it one step at a time
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Guys, all of you are hammering the guy for using the K27/6. He had options before purchasing the turbo, but due to timing, his shop's advice, financial (or whatever the reason may be) he made a decision.
Let him enjoy it!
Let him enjoy it!
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Agreed John but the poor guy is spending his
hard earn cash & to me it seems that he was
ill advice. What's the diff in cost between a
K27/6 & 8 nothing. To be honest, I hate it when
vendors are unprofessional in their business
practice.
hard earn cash & to me it seems that he was
ill advice. What's the diff in cost between a
K27/6 & 8 nothing. To be honest, I hate it when
vendors are unprofessional in their business
practice.
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J Chen, I agree with you 100%, however you assume that the vendors care or even know better. The guy was aware of what he was dealing with... I know!
As far as the turbo goes, it's water under the bridge.... Hopefully the next person that works on this car does not blow it up. There are certain things that must be done to ensure it lives!
I'm sure the guy is not totally happy now, but it's after the fact. Telling him he has the wrong turbo will just make him feel less happy!
As far as the turbo goes, it's water under the bridge.... Hopefully the next person that works on this car does not blow it up. There are certain things that must be done to ensure it lives!
I'm sure the guy is not totally happy now, but it's after the fact. Telling him he has the wrong turbo will just make him feel less happy!
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Originally Posted by fast951
The gains from the head will be obtained as soon as ST gets to the dyno. If I were you I wouldn't be too concerned about peak numbers, I would want a large area under the curve. If you noticed already, most 951s making large peak HP at lower boost have a peaky power curve, and not as much torque. In any event, as long as you have a game plan with preset goals you will be fine.
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Thanks for all the help guys and honest opinions. OK so maybe the K27/6 isnt the best turbo to have but for now (taking it 1 step at a time) I am looking to get a little over 300RWHP........Anders at Devek is going to help me with an accuboost, chips and tuning on the dyno. Im thinking to run about 18PSI and figuring witht the proper tuning this will be safe for everyday use. Later on down the road if I want to get to 400RWHP I think I will then be looking at larger injectors, different turbo, more $$$, etc. etc. For now I am happy with the power but I am sure as time goes on I will want more.
I am listening if anyone wants to give sound advice on how to get the most from this engine ( of course without having to spend too much $$$). I know there are 2.5L running more HP than me (i saw them on dyno day at Devek) but I'm not looking to have the fastest 951 in Cali....
I should have my car into Devek sometime in the next 2 weeks. I will post the results afterward.
BTW - Yes I am happy with the car......but I probably could have been happier........but I am sure Anders can help but a smile on my face.
I am listening if anyone wants to give sound advice on how to get the most from this engine ( of course without having to spend too much $$$). I know there are 2.5L running more HP than me (i saw them on dyno day at Devek) but I'm not looking to have the fastest 951 in Cali....
I should have my car into Devek sometime in the next 2 weeks. I will post the results afterward.
BTW - Yes I am happy with the car......but I probably could have been happier........but I am sure Anders can help but a smile on my face.
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"Guys, all of you are hammering the guy for using the K27/6. He had options before purchasing the turbo, but due to timing, his shop's advice, financial (or whatever the reason may be) he made a decision.
Let him enjoy it!"
Please don't misunderstand us. Most of us, who do, or want to do heavy mods, would really like to already have a 2.8, or 3.0. When we see one that may not be getting its full potential, we sort of start questioning as if in a vaccuum unto ourselves. The ONLY thing that matters is that you are happy with it, or atleast on the way there. With the work at Devek, you should end up pretty pleased with the differences. You can always do crazy things later....and I'm betting you will. It's a sickness we all seem to have contracted.
Anyway, good luck and have a great time. This forum is a really good resource, and some of us have big bore envy (no comments Tool and Lart
) so let us know about your progress. Cheers! E
Let him enjoy it!"
Please don't misunderstand us. Most of us, who do, or want to do heavy mods, would really like to already have a 2.8, or 3.0. When we see one that may not be getting its full potential, we sort of start questioning as if in a vaccuum unto ourselves. The ONLY thing that matters is that you are happy with it, or atleast on the way there. With the work at Devek, you should end up pretty pleased with the differences. You can always do crazy things later....and I'm betting you will. It's a sickness we all seem to have contracted.
Anyway, good luck and have a great time. This forum is a really good resource, and some of us have big bore envy (no comments Tool and Lart
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Originally Posted by Tomas L
The numbers on the torque scale are NOT engine torque. Try to convert the hp numbers to TQ and it will give a much lower figure. The label on the axis states wheel torque (engineTQ/gearing) but that doesn't add up either.
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lol yeah, I actually paid no attention to it really. Its a one year old dyno called Torque Performance (IIRC) I was on a Dyno Dynamics rolling road the very day before that one and ftlbs of torque was just over 320 on a HP run of 327. I will look for the sheet...
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21 lbs. all day long. no tuning, just *** kicking. It's all in the builder. have 13k on the car and another 90k or so to go in the motor. Powerhaus baby!!!!!!!!
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Hey NZ, not yet. It may go back in for more hp. It will be dynoed first and then after. That is if I keep it. I may move on to a new project or sell the motor. Not sure. New business going up in July. Have to see how well I do. Wish me luck...
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Hi TurboStar,
Sorry about this but I was just **** off by Powerhaus
as they're suppose to have much experience in the 951.
With the increase capacity that you have, I think the
turbo would be max out by 15-16 psi. Going 18 psi
would be meaningless.
Sorry about this but I was just **** off by Powerhaus
as they're suppose to have much experience in the 951.
With the increase capacity that you have, I think the
turbo would be max out by 15-16 psi. Going 18 psi
would be meaningless.