Another 2.8L on eBay - Lots of RWHP!
05-23-2005, 07:13 AM
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The 60-1 HiFi has a 2.75" inlet, it SHOULD use the T04B housing (turbo vendors sometimes use a T04E). The 60-1 has a 4" inlet, but the HiFi flows 90-95% of the 60-1.
Yes it can flow 1200+CFM (60-1 HiFi), due to so many various configuration of the 60-1 HiFi (various vendors assemble them) the HiFi can flow as low as 786CFM all the way to 1200CFM. This is a fact since i asked around and have a 60-1 HiFi on the way. Now, because the #8 housing is the different variable a 60-1 Hifi with a #8 stage 3 wheel about 1200cfm, or some people say 50 to 60 lbs per minute.
Just a note, the Lindsey Racing Super 75 can flow 1088 CFM using a T04E and rumors say that they use Garrett GT compressor trims (not my claiming, it is just a rumor).
Now, naturally running those hp numbers and that high fuel pressure may not be safe, but i just wanted to point out that it is do-able. Not safe, but do able.
Daniel also did 351whp at 16.5psi, running very rich, stock block and head as well.
The 60-1 HiFi has a LOT of potential that is often mis-understood.
Yes it can flow 1200+CFM (60-1 HiFi), due to so many various configuration of the 60-1 HiFi (various vendors assemble them) the HiFi can flow as low as 786CFM all the way to 1200CFM. This is a fact since i asked around and have a 60-1 HiFi on the way. Now, because the #8 housing is the different variable a 60-1 Hifi with a #8 stage 3 wheel about 1200cfm, or some people say 50 to 60 lbs per minute.
Just a note, the Lindsey Racing Super 75 can flow 1088 CFM using a T04E and rumors say that they use Garrett GT compressor trims (not my claiming, it is just a rumor).
Now, naturally running those hp numbers and that high fuel pressure may not be safe, but i just wanted to point out that it is do-able. Not safe, but do able.
Daniel also did 351whp at 16.5psi, running very rich, stock block and head as well.
The 60-1 HiFi has a LOT of potential that is often mis-understood.
05-23-2005, 07:42 AM
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Lads I can see this going v downward v ! Lets not start AGAIN! I was merely stating that I also intend to use a 60-1 and 55lb injectors on a 2.8 of very similar spec so if he's lying I'll know soon enough and if he's not I'll be hop skipping and jumping all the way down to a trackday to munch some jap anus! (isn't going to happen really is it!)
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05-23-2005, 07:47 AM
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p.s. my info about my turbo came from here...(if it helps)
http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchan...944TURBOSSUPER
http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchan...944TURBOSSUPER
05-23-2005, 07:51 AM
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I don't understand how he is controlling the A/F ratio if he is only using an Autothority MAF and chip? My understanding that these are basically set-up for a stock car so how would this work with out some sort of piggyback sysytem on a car that is obviously flowing much more air?
05-23-2005, 09:45 AM
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Ok, I have the answers. The guy is somewhat of a bonehead. He was consistent in the way yhe advertised his numbers. He emailed me back and said this:
"Hi I knew someone would ask this..... there is a dyno chart at the very bottom of the page. This was with the old KKK turbo(k27/6), with the new turbo, the car has not had any dyno runs, but I suspect it's making more power than b4. Probably 20-25hp. The dyno reads 401hp(old turbo)....there is approx 15% drivtrain loss, which will net about 465 at the crank."
Whew, thank God I am safe with my car, for a while!
"Hi I knew someone would ask this..... there is a dyno chart at the very bottom of the page. This was with the old KKK turbo(k27/6), with the new turbo, the car has not had any dyno runs, but I suspect it's making more power than b4. Probably 20-25hp. The dyno reads 401hp(old turbo)....there is approx 15% drivtrain loss, which will net about 465 at the crank."
Whew, thank God I am safe with my car, for a while!
05-23-2005, 10:44 AM
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I think you best chill my friend, your head is swelling while you're running 24PSI! And your gonna give me a beating? Well, as Duke said, do you drive your car at all? Do you have skills? Take a look at my signature my dear "dyno master friend". Its says IMSA GTP Pro Driver? And what are your racing credentials?
Also, I cant run over 18PSI, FOR NOW as you know. In due time yes. And then, when I do run your 24/25 PSI, you think you will keep up with me, on the street or track?
I think you best chill my friend, your head is swelling while you're running 24PSI! And your gonna give me a beating? Well, as Duke said, do you drive your car at all? Do you have skills? Take a look at my signature my dear "dyno master friend". Its says IMSA GTP Pro Driver? And what are your racing credentials?
Also, I cant run over 18PSI, FOR NOW as you know. In due time yes. And then, when I do run your 24/25 PSI, you think you will keep up with me, on the street or track?
05-23-2005, 10:51 AM
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Dyno Charts?
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By the way, "kindly" post your dyno chart of that " 438/437 HP/TQ" and at 24PSI, right? I am sure everyone is curious to see those curves. I dont ever remember you posting it?
We all will be waiting, especially me since you are going to "spot me 20HP?"
By the way, "kindly" post your dyno chart of that " 438/437 HP/TQ" and at 24PSI, right? I am sure everyone is curious to see those curves. I dont ever remember you posting it?
We all will be waiting, especially me since you are going to "spot me 20HP?"
05-23-2005, 10:51 AM
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Yeah - that's what I though, man. Once again, all flappin' and no action. Check it out, my man - I went through the trouble of finding your new avatar - its friggin PERFECT for you!!!
05-23-2005, 11:20 AM
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That dyno is not, I repeat IS NOT a dyno from a K27/6 on any motor, especially a 2.8L. That guy is so full of it, I be suprised if it has any of that nice hardware in it. Funny you can't verify any of that stuff without taking things apart, huh?
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