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Old 01-22-2005, 02:37 PM
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Not to start anything but i got to ask this:

Fast951: The old vitesse stage 3 was capable of making ~440whp at 22+psi boost correct?

Now, the new stage 3 hits 405whp at 24psi.......was the difference of ~35whp needed to improve the power curve? not to mention the additional higher boost?

im NOT starting anything with anyone IIRC, just a SIMPLE question
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Hosrom - no, I hope to be at 450 next dyno with a cleaner AFR. My last run was very bad AFR.
I just put the stuff on and went to the dyno - literally. No prior tuning experience, whatsoever, either.
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Hey Fast & NZ,
Are your 1 bar boost figures base on accel in forth gear
with EBC or MBC ?
The graph was with WG spring pressure and was 3rd and 4th gear runs plotted... The line I have with EBC is a little sharper but not much so, 1 bar at 3,200 was with 3rd and 4th gear runs also...
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when i dyno my car i plan on bringing the camera to film the boost gauge and the #'s so there is no question that i did it or not
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Special Tool: That would be nice, but i was considering the % gained/imrpoved for the power curve, since 90% or so of the stage 3 owners would be street driven and low boost, that's what i was thinking of, not max hp
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Hosrom, SpecialTool did 405rwhp at 24psi.. He was experiencing 2 problems: (1)rich mixture, didn't fine tune it. (2) had stock exhaust and butchered cat/testpipe.
The second car did 410rwhp at 22psi...
As I mentioned in previous posts, the new Stage 3 was designed for: (1) quicker spoolup (it comes on about 500-700rpm sooner than the old stage 3). (2)To supply enough air for over 400rwhp.
Both were achieved... I have no doubt that 450rwhp and similar torque are attainable with this turbo.
Making big numbers is great, but what I like the most is the area under the power curve...
This turbo is in the sweet sport between 18-24psi.. very efficient. The same car with the new Stage 3 will be faster than the same car with the old stage 3. Now you have a larger area under the curve.

Now if you want GREAT spoolup, and high 300s HP/TQ stage 2 is the way to go... The best of both worls...
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Originally Posted by fast951
Making big numbers is great, but what I like the most is the area under the power curve...
That is what i was referring to

Originally Posted by fast951
Now if you want GREAT spoolup, and high 300s HP/TQ stage 2 is the way to go... The best of both worls...

Mid-to-high 300whp at your recommended boost levels would be nice. Do you have anyone testing the stage 2 yet?
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Hey Hosrum,
Why don't you just buy one of John's turbo & be done
with it ? It's been proven & not a hit & miss turbo combo.
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Hey Hosrum,
Why don't you just buy one of John's turbo & be done
with it ? It's been proven & not a hit & miss turbo combo.

That is my third option !!!



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