Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

Jetted Banjo - Take it or leave it ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-2004, 04:37 PM
  #1  
Bret 944
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Bret 944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Jetted Banjo - Take it or leave it ?

Just finished installing my Lindsey MBC earlier today. Here's the question:

The car has APE chips with a JETTED BANJO BOLT. Should I remove the jetted banjo and put a stock on ein now that I am running a MBC ? The CV has been bypassed also.

Not sure if the wastegate is shimmed, but everything else is stock except for the brand new WF Head Gasket.
Old 11-13-2004, 04:40 PM
  #2  
Cyrus951
Rennlist Member
 
Cyrus951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: 951 -> 958 (SOCAL)
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Boost Sciences instructions tell you to remove them.
Old 11-13-2004, 04:42 PM
  #3  
Magown
Burning Brakes
 
Magown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Madison, MS
Posts: 1,223
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Remove it, you don't want it delaying the pressure to the MBC.
Old 11-13-2004, 06:56 PM
  #4  
Kesepton
Racer
 
Kesepton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I hear about these "CV joinits" failing all the time and CVs. What are these exactly and what do they do?
Old 11-13-2004, 07:07 PM
  #5  
Cyrus951
Rennlist Member
 
Cyrus951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: 951 -> 958 (SOCAL)
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

We're talking about Cycling valves, you're thinking of a totally different thing.
Old 11-13-2004, 08:14 PM
  #6  
Sam Lin
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Sam Lin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gilbert, AZ, USA
Posts: 3,787
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Remove the jetted bolt, or just remove the jet from the middle of the bolt.

Incidentally, I need an APE jetted banjo if you're selling it after you remove it.

Sam
Old 11-14-2004, 09:32 PM
  #7  
Jeremy Himsel
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Jeremy Himsel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ - NJ Runaway
Posts: 3,649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sam,

I've just put a jet from a weber carb in the stock BB. you can pick them up from BAP for a couple of bucks.
Old 11-14-2004, 09:38 PM
  #8  
Sam Lin
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Sam Lin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gilbert, AZ, USA
Posts: 3,787
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

You tapped the stock banjo? The 2 I have sitting around aren't threaded inside, otherwise I would have done the same. I didn't have the tap and didn't know thread size to buy one.

Sam
Old 11-14-2004, 09:38 PM
  #9  
JoeN951
Instructor
 
JoeN951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If he's still using the autothority chips in the car should he not keep the banjo bolt in place and not try to hold boost till redline if he does not want to blow a headgasket and or run lean on the top end???
Old 11-14-2004, 10:31 PM
  #10  
Peckster
Nordschleife Master
 
Peckster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,748
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=Bret 944]Just finished installing my Lindsey MBC earlier today. Here's the question:
QUOTE]

Follow Lindsey's instructions.
Old 11-14-2004, 11:38 PM
  #11  
Magown
Burning Brakes
 
Magown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Madison, MS
Posts: 1,223
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by JoeN951
If he's still using the autothority chips in the car should he not keep the banjo bolt in place and not try to hold boost till redline if he does not want to blow a headgasket and or run lean on the top end???

Your right Joe, but his cycling valve has crapped out and the jetted banjo bolt is ment to work in series with the cv. I suggest that he remove the jet, install the mbc and keep the boost turned down to a few lbs above stock.
Old 11-15-2004, 01:24 AM
  #12  
Kelly Chiu
Racer
 
Kelly Chiu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This is a slight tangent, but is still related to authothority chips and the banjo bolt. I recently switched out some Stage II chips that the previous owner installed and replaced them with the stock chips. I have also left the jetted banjo bolt in. The car feels much faster, boost seems to come on much stronger than before.

My question is running the jetted banjo with the stock chips a bad idea? I am assuming the jetted banjo raises the boost by 1 or 2 lbs, could doing this lead to a premature detonation and headgasket failure?
Old 11-15-2004, 01:39 AM
  #13  
Porsche-O-Phile
Banned
 
Porsche-O-Phile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In self-imposed exile.
Posts: 14,072
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I believe that the boost would ultimately be limited by the overboost protection circuit (I ran into this recently) and detonation would be prevented through the action of the knock sensor and the KLR. . .

A stock head gasket should hold up fine against one or two additional pounds of boost if you can even get them. With my stock chips and no regulation going to the wastegate whatsoever (W/G line unplugged), I was unable to get more than 1.8 bar of boost before the overboost protection kicked in. I believe a lot of people run their stock / original head gaskets with 18 psi chips without problems.
Old 11-15-2004, 01:43 AM
  #14  
Kelly Chiu
Racer
 
Kelly Chiu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hey thanks Porsche-O-Phile. Also congrats on getting your car running. If you want a free set of Autothority Stage II chips, tell me and I'll drop them off the next time I visit the lady friend down in the LBC.
Old 11-15-2004, 04:18 AM
  #15  
Porsche-O-Phile
Banned
 
Porsche-O-Phile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In self-imposed exile.
Posts: 14,072
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Hell yes! Sent you PM.


Quick Reply: Jetted Banjo - Take it or leave it ?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:02 AM.