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The heavier v-8 would certainly change the handling characteristics, but I suspect a lot of those guys are interested in going fast in a straight line, which puts more emphasis on the ability of the car and less on the ability of the driver than driving a real track.
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Really I don't know but if you guys would like, we cand do a "fill the washer reserve bbq" and have the guys come and fill the washer fluid on my car otherwise Iam going to take to my mechanic.
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Originally Posted by J Chen
I love my 951 but as a person with mechanical engineering
background, the design of the engine is nothing to shout about.
background, the design of the engine is nothing to shout about.
Do you say this because the engine is based on early 80s technology?
....Because of the amount of power that can ultimately be extracted from a 2.5L inline-4?
....Because of the durability of the engine?
I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
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Sorry Tifo, if you read the whole post you would have read it as it was meant, this X.L.R.8 is the name I have on my car instead of the Porsche Logo. the reason for this is........ah forget it, I really don't think the other would understand.
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Well, they felt the need to find a home somewhere other than here, so be it. You can't please everybody.
Personally, I'm pretty ambivalent to V8 conversions. I've only seen one (ironically a car I'd owned previously), and to be honest that poor car was so old and tired (200K+ on the original motor) that I don't think it mattered what was done to it.
I do understand the sarcasm directed towards some of our threads, especially on the main board. Rennlist doesn't require technical certification for membership, so we're bound to have a divergence of talents and experience. "Buyer beware" on who's advice you listen to.
Rennlist can be a little hostile sometimes, (Hey, can anybody tell me how to turbo an '83 n/a?), but I don't feel the need to go to another site to defend it.
Personally, I'm pretty ambivalent to V8 conversions. I've only seen one (ironically a car I'd owned previously), and to be honest that poor car was so old and tired (200K+ on the original motor) that I don't think it mattered what was done to it.
I do understand the sarcasm directed towards some of our threads, especially on the main board. Rennlist doesn't require technical certification for membership, so we're bound to have a divergence of talents and experience. "Buyer beware" on who's advice you listen to.
Rennlist can be a little hostile sometimes, (Hey, can anybody tell me how to turbo an '83 n/a?), but I don't feel the need to go to another site to defend it.
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Sorry Tifo, if you read the whole post you would have read it as it was meant, this X.L.R.8 is the name I have on my car instead of the Porsche Logo. the reason for this is........ah forget it, I really don't think the other would understand.
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Originally Posted by NeedPorscheSpeed
Can you elaborate please?
Do you say this because the engine is based on early 80s technology?
....Because of the amount of power that can ultimately be extracted from a 2.5L inline-4?
....Because of the durability of the engine?
I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
Do you say this because the engine is based on early 80s technology?
....Because of the amount of power that can ultimately be extracted from a 2.5L inline-4?
....Because of the durability of the engine?
I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
The unusual #2 rod bearing wear is definately a minus. The amount of power the stock motor can handle is a plus. Cost of mods and parts is a minus...
Add it all up, nothing to shout about.
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Hi NeedPorsche Speed,
1. With their expertise going V6 would have been
the way instead because of the bean counters
cost cutting dictated the use of common parts
with the 928.
2. Metallurgy wise nothing more was spent aside from
the ceramic liners all else was taken from the
development of the 928 engine.
3. Why pay royalties to Mitsubishi for the use of the
balance shaft. But it's cheaper than developing a V6.
4. Big bore with short stroke does not make for a torquey
engine & guess why the bore was 100mm to start with.
1. With their expertise going V6 would have been
the way instead because of the bean counters
cost cutting dictated the use of common parts
with the 928.
2. Metallurgy wise nothing more was spent aside from
the ceramic liners all else was taken from the
development of the 928 engine.
3. Why pay royalties to Mitsubishi for the use of the
balance shaft. But it's cheaper than developing a V6.
4. Big bore with short stroke does not make for a torquey
engine & guess why the bore was 100mm to start with.
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Hi NeedPorsche Speed,
1. With their expertise going V6 would have been
the way instead because of the bean counters
cost cutting dictated the use of common parts
with the 928.
2. Metallurgy wise nothing more was spent aside from
the ceramic liners all else was taken from the
development of the 928 engine.
3. Why pay royalties to Mitsubishi for the use of the
balance shaft. But it's cheaper than developing a V6.
4. Big bore with short stroke does not make for a torquey
engine & guess why the bore was 100mm to start with.
1. With their expertise going V6 would have been
the way instead because of the bean counters
cost cutting dictated the use of common parts
with the 928.
2. Metallurgy wise nothing more was spent aside from
the ceramic liners all else was taken from the
development of the 928 engine.
3. Why pay royalties to Mitsubishi for the use of the
balance shaft. But it's cheaper than developing a V6.
4. Big bore with short stroke does not make for a torquey
engine & guess why the bore was 100mm to start with.
3: I really don't get this point.. If something is already developed - why do it again? A 944 engine with fresh motor mounts is a lot smoother than a V6 and the best comparison is a BMW straight six.
4: Big bore and short stroke make a rev-happy engine that is quite blippable.
Here in Europe NOBODY puts american V8's in 944's or 928's- But then in this part of the world track driving is a lot more about overall performance than a beast in a straight line.
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The below photos are why V8 conversions SUCK. There are some nice ones, they are just few and far between. Besides if that is what you want it is readily available, it is called a Camaro....
Got hose clamps? You can polish a turd and put it in new clothes but it is still a turd. As to the engineering being nothing to write home about, I suppose a pushrod 350 is?
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Got hose clamps? You can polish a turd and put it in new clothes but it is still a turd. As to the engineering being nothing to write home about, I suppose a pushrod 350 is?
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Does it really matter what they say about us on that forum? We have around 12,000 people a day breeze through here, they have around 20 or 30? I'm sure we are looked down upon on the ricer forums too. Who cares though, I have a Porsche and they don't.
Maybe I can be infamous too. Or maybe... cognito.
Maybe I can be infamous too. Or maybe... cognito.
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Originally Posted by 9fitty1
pushrods foreva! what a bunch of homos. They make me angry.