Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

Keeps blowing DME fuse

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-17-2019, 03:02 PM
  #1  
newkie
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
newkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Keeps blowing DME fuse

So my car died on the road the other day cruising speed no ”fun driving” at all. Cranks just as usual. No spark and nu fuel. So i try with a jump on the dme. No cigar, fuel pump runs but car wont start.

I noticed i have no spark. So i check the coil in every way possible, tried another coil. Tried my good spare dme control unit. Nothing happens.

i decide to test all the fuses in the fuse box. Number 7 is burned out (DME control unit). So i think to myself, what could cause that? I try a new fuse just in case, the. Ofc the new one blows as soon as i turn on the igniton.

does any one have a clue as to where i should start?
Old 06-17-2019, 10:17 PM
  #2  
Dan Martinic
Drifting
 
Dan Martinic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,148
Received 157 Likes on 131 Posts
Default

My understanding is that the DME (ECU) isn't fused; indeed the unit itself acts like a fuse of sorts ie. if the grounds were to be disconnected, it could blow the DME (ECU).

Are you certain the fuse in question is for the DME (ECU)?
Old 06-17-2019, 11:03 PM
  #3  
Adker
Racer
 
Adker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: West of East
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Fuse chart is below. The DME Relay supplies power to DME (and the injectors) on terminal 87 of the DME relay and it gets it power directly from the battery. In case of a short, normally, the DME relay will overheat and fail acting like a fuse.
https://clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/elect-11.htm
http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/fuel-05.htm
Old 06-18-2019, 12:30 AM
  #4  
Humboldtgrin
Drifting
 
Humboldtgrin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
Posts: 2,268
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Sounds like a power wire is shorting to ground. I recommend taking out your power control box (fuse block) and cleaning it up, while you in there check your wires. You may find the problem right away.
Old 06-18-2019, 12:57 AM
  #5  
fast951
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
fast951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 6,885
Likes: 0
Received 37 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

The fuse #7 that keeps blowing is the fuse for the turbo cooling pump. Disconnect the pump and inspect its wires..

The no start may not be related to fuse #7 blowing. It appears that you have multiple issues.
Old 06-18-2019, 04:04 AM
  #6  
newkie
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
newkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I am not sure at all. Are you guys sure?On my fuse list, wich is in German (and not easy to understand), Fuse number 7 is indeed for the turbo water pump. But it sure can be understood as if the fuse protects both water pump and DME. I found and english version online. Car is a 1989 Porsche 944 turbo.
Old 06-18-2019, 08:58 AM
  #7  
Dan Martinic
Drifting
 
Dan Martinic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,148
Received 157 Likes on 131 Posts
Default

That line "Control unit DME (4 vent.) could refer to the timing circuit for the pump

When you unplug the turbo aux water pump, does a new fuse blow?
Old 06-18-2019, 09:24 AM
  #8  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

I Believe as a German speaking Person that the "(4 Vent)" Is the German abbreviation for 4 Ventiler.. OR as we say in English "4 Valves" So as I would understand it, "This is the DME circuit for a 16 valve" But if its a Turbo, it is used for the Electric water pump.
Old 06-18-2019, 10:19 AM
  #9  
newkie
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
newkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dan Martinic
That line "Control unit DME (4 vent.) could refer to the timing circuit for the pump

When you unplug the turbo aux water pump, does a new fuse blow?
I have no turbo water pump. The turbo was to big so i opted to have it removed.
Old 06-18-2019, 10:24 AM
  #10  
Dan Martinic
Drifting
 
Dan Martinic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,148
Received 157 Likes on 131 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPA951s
I Believe as a German speaking Person that the "(4 Vent)" Is the German abbreviation for 4 Ventiler.. OR as we say in English "4 Valves" So as I would understand it, "This is the DME circuit for a 16 valve" But if its a Turbo, it is used for the Electric water pump.
Great detective work! Would be interesting if the DME(ECU) was fused though
Old 06-18-2019, 10:36 AM
  #11  
Droops83
Three Wheelin'
 
Droops83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 1,669
Received 79 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by newkie
I have no turbo water pump. The turbo was to big so i opted to have it removed.
So, it is possible that the wiring for the turbo water pump is dangling in the engine compartment and shorting . . . . probably not causing your no start, but it should be looked into.

Nice find GPA951s on the Turbo vs 16V fuse chart differences. I recently had the same thing on a customer's E60 BMW M5. Every E60 wiring diagram I could find (including factory versions) showed the fuse I was looking at was for "gear indicator lighting," which is true for every E60 variant except for the M5. I finally found a diagram that referenced this fuse being used for the electronic damper control, which I was looking for. These things throw you curveballs sometimes!
Old 06-18-2019, 11:16 AM
  #12  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Newki, What year car? The DME Circuit Runs through the Airbag as well if so Equipped.(Found out the hard way). Look up Vans Video on YouTube regarding Porsche schematics. This does sound like it will require some troubleshooting with a meter.
Old 06-19-2019, 03:12 AM
  #13  
newkie
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
newkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPA951s
Newki, What year car? The DME Circuit Runs through the Airbag as well if so Equipped.(Found out the hard way). Look up Vans Video on YouTube regarding Porsche schematics. This does sound like it will require some troubleshooting with a meter.
1989, no airbag.
Old 06-19-2019, 09:57 AM
  #14  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by newkie
1989, no airbag.

So someone removed them? They were standard on 1989's and if so, they had to jumper out The harness behind the glovebox. If its not soldered and shrink-wrapped and they just jumped the pins then there is an intermittent connection there possibly.
Old 06-19-2019, 11:11 AM
  #15  
Dan Martinic
Drifting
 
Dan Martinic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,148
Received 157 Likes on 131 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPA951s
So someone removed them? They were standard on 1989's and if so, they had to jumper out The harness behind the glovebox. If its not soldered and shrink-wrapped and they just jumped the pins then there is an intermittent connection there possibly.
Might have been standard on USA / Canada only


Quick Reply: Keeps blowing DME fuse



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:22 AM.