gt3rs.

I am searching for someone who own a 924 or a 944 with a 1.8 t conversion by motor werks racing.
You can send me a pm.

Thanks

Cloud9...68

Have you considered contacting Motorwerks Racing and asking them for some references?

gt3rs.

[QUOTE=Cloud9...68;14866356]Have you considered contacting Motorwerks Racing and asking them for some references?[/QUOTE

No. Maybe i will.

MAGK944

Matt O.

How am I just now finding out about MWR? Been out of the loop for a while... Those guys build, what appear to be, some incredibly impressive vehicles. Bravo.

David Floyd

I keep hoping to see one at a DE, two were at Road Atlanta this past weekend......but I was not

Tripper

I know a few owners.

333pg333

They seem to like retaining a certain amount of mystery around their builds. Perhaps they're just too busy. Certainly some very nice looking tribute builds.
Questions I've asked them:

How much?
How do they convert to Boxter Gearbox and suspension?
What sort of tq? No matter how much peak hp, tq is still very important.
Doesn't look like a lot of crash protection in front of the motor. Any question marks over that?

Makes a lot of sense for < 2300lb cars. If you were a 951/S2/968 owner contemplating this I would question an expensive conversion for let's guess 350ft/lbs tq 450bhp in a 3000lb car. I'd spend less money on a stroker motor, suspension, braking in a road or even occasional club car.

gt3rs.

For sure, they don't answer any of my email....

Droops83

When MWR first started advertising the 1.8T conversion, they claimed they were going to offer DIY kits, and I was intrigued. 150 lbs off the nose of a 944 is significant, no matter how much the rest of the chassis weighs! The 944 engine is pretty large and heavy for what it is, so it is really tight in the engine bay, and of course there are the known issues of getting the head gasket to seal and minimizing bore movement during sustained use at high boost (I know there are good solutions that have been proven by a number of you guys, but they aren't all cheap!). The iron 1.8T block is a pretty stout, closed deck design, with modern cylinder head and combustion chamber design to boot.

I emailed MWR a few times a few years ago and never heard anything, and soon after that they deleted the "DIY kit" part. I heard through the grapevine that you basically needed to send them a car and $50K+......which is fine, let them make some money, but way out of my budget!!! Of course a 1.8T swap is doable if you have the time and fab skills, but I am lacking in both, so gonna stick to the 951 engine for now.

I am curious about what they do with the rear suspension. Dwayne at Vision Motorsports (the shop that built Tony G's crazy 944 race car) told me the adapting the multilink 996 rear suspension (which is probably what MWR uses, Boxster is only a 3-link due to the mid-engine platform) to a 944 platform was "not that bad" in terms of difficulty, but he owns a fab shop! I would be curious to know which gearbox the MWR guys are running and if they last! Also curious of their builds are all they are cracked up to be . . . .

Paulyy

Theres a post on the 944 outlaws page. 1850lb / 840kgs for one of their cars with a 1.8.

vwmann1

Seams like a lot of money for what is more of a show car than race car. It would be nice to have a real driver give some feed back on how the car handles with the chassis modifications as well as some real world power numbers, Heat soak, etc.

I also inquired about the DIY kit as I would change a few things from a packaging stand point to do this on my chassis, however like most here I never heard back from them.

Cloud9...68

Given the less-than-stellar level of response people have experienced from Motorwerks Racing, I wonder how difficult it would be to create the necessary components (engine mounts, bell housing adapter, modifications to the flywheel, etc.) to do this swap without involving MWR, especially since most people interested in such a swap wouldn't necessarily be bound to the all-or-nothing approach MWR uses. It can't be any more complicated than swapping in an LS__ V8 (not that that is exactly a simple task!).

Humboldtgrin

Droops83

To me, the most intriguing part of the 1.8T swap is how much smaller and lighter the engine is. 150 lbs off the nose, weight moves rearward and improves turn-in response. Plus, the engine would be so much easier to work on while in the car. Timing belt swaps would be a breeze, and you could easily retain the factory brake booster (unlike with a LS swap). The problem for me is CA smog---keeping a 1.8T BAR-legal would mean keeping the anemic factory turbo and stupidly overcomplicated vacuum system of the stock 1.8T.

However, we happen to have a tired 924 Turbo and an Audi A4 1.8T sitting on my shop lot right now, it might be worth it to marry the two and see what happens .