Shark_gts

I just wanted to discuss my experience there on having a "vintage" Porsche on the market, in particular a 928GTS.

OMG turned into a post delete-fest for whatever reason. OK back topic and mods don't get your nose out of blah blah...

The backdrop is that the vintage Porsche market has gone a little reckless in particular 911 turbos. Perhaps this is because of tech start-up winners showing love for the brand. So that then casts the investment net larger gathering up other specialty models of the marque. Naturally it means the GTS's are bubbling up on the collective radar.

I keep hearing "a 928 has always been on my bucket list". But what is the truth to that? Shouldn't it be "The work required to manage 928 ownership, which is XX% higher than lower cylinder, lower displacement cars with conventional drivetrains, is something I am willing to take on"

There is a lot of lore about a 911 turbo that opens wallets, for repair bills and other expenditures. But similar estimates slapped on a 928(GTS) seems to cause proverbial fright and flight response. Or the calculator is out and crunching on... I am not sure what. Seems all very strange to me anyway, and obviously logic doesn't apply or I'd have it figured out.

hacker-pschorr

Sorry, when you post up a car you have on the market and you are not a member, the post is removed. It's that simple.

As for the rest of your post, this has been discussed many, many times. Becoming as frequent as oil threads.

Here are a few:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-our-cars.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...alue-list.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...28-values.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...the-928-a.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...928-again.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-be-worth.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-52-000-a.html

SeanR

I'm not even sure what's going on here, therefor I'm just posting to up my post count.

hacker-pschorr

Go kick Doc out of bed, these threads don't get interesting until he joins in.

Shark_gts

Sure - I am not discussing 928 values or the collector market, per se and per those threads, which I will read through, thanks. Nor am I trying to post or advertise about a 928 for sale. I am here in the club to discuss what's going on essentially outside of the "928 community" wrt to my selling process.

What I am talking about is what happens when "civilians" or 928 newbies venture into the pool of Sharks, perhaps from a 911 bent.

And also mulling over or looking for what to do in my particular case. Therefore this is personal thread and started as such. I tried to post on the started thread already.

Anyway back on point, the inspecting shop reports the pan gasket is leaking, cam cover leaks or this & that. Nothing major tho. But taken to extreme, maybe $5-6K??

I could fix just those things so the inspect report reads clean. But why tear things down and (you know) not redo the ISV, knock sensors, optional stuff etc etc. Makes no sense to me, because if I tear down I won't, cause they are working fine. And if the prospective buyers could understand the logic of that vs where I am priced at??

It's too complicated for their purchasing brains to process.

hacker-pschorr

I get that, and this is a common sub-theme in most threads talking about value and what is happening with the market.

Right....here we go again. You are looking for advice and talking about your 928 which is for sale, and you are not a paid member.... so it's only a matter of minutes before the PM's light up my inbox of people reporting a non-member selling something.

If you were selling a high mileage S4 or better yet, an automatic US 16V you might have a point. You however, are asking $50k for a 928, this may be an average price for a GTS, it's in the extreme top 1% if all 928 values.

I understand your point the car isn't going to be perfect since in reality it's a used car with 110,000 miles. But on the flip side, when simple stuff isn't fixed, you start to wonder what big stuff was overlooked or done half-assed, especially in a car at this price range.

You mentioned "this or that" on the inspection list. A few "this or that's" can add up to big $$ on any car, much less a 928.
The eBay listing mentions TB/WB done 10k miles ago, which WP was used?

People squawk at the idea of pulling the engine on certain Ferrari's every few years (like the 355GTS I had in the garage for a while). But on the flip side, "small" issues like this are easily handled on a regular basis. However, this sets a standard of sorts which is why "non-928" people may really raise an eyebrow when something as "simple" as a pan gasket is leaking on a $50k 928 when most others are in the 20's or teens.......

OTR18WHEELER

why didn't I think of that?

SMTCapeCod

Bump

Mikebte

I came from the 944 pool to the 928 pool. Not everyone likes a 928. I looked at lots of cars to take on as my next fun car from a Miata, Z3, BMW's, and even a 95 Mercedes SL500. People have a lot of options anymore.

And I would like to think, anyone buying a 928 would know its going to need fixed. I have a list a stuff that I knew would need fixed on mine. Repairs are excepted. I will never make money on the car and i'll fix it for the fun of driving the car.

Genius

linderpat

Sean, that is just so....empty of you.

linderpat

Did I say "empty"? I meant genious

safulop

Personally I've had trouble getting even a low-ball offer on a car that is up to date with maintenance. Getting $50,000 for a car that needs $5000 worth of work could be a stretch. But there's always "bring a trailer".

SeanR

It's a beautiful car, hope the OP gets every penny he's asking for it.

hacker-pschorr

....well, add $18 to the asking price to cover a membership before this thread gets deleted.

SeanR

Heartless man. Heartless.