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I usually don't post on harness threads since i'm not a paying sponsor but sorta affiliated with Roger who's been pumping these out faster than I can make them. Getting the proper wire, proper coloration and not using what you find at Radio Shack is pretty important. One thing that Firemn131 brought up when we were talking about these was using the marine grade wire and I really didn't give it a lot of thought as the marine grade from several vendors I use was outlandish in prices. Well, come to find out, the vendor I've been getting my colored wire had been sending me the marine grade on everything but the primary wire, which I'd been buying elsewhere. Yesterdays order (have to order in rather large lengths to get a good price) was sort of a surprise as all the smaller wires I've been using are not GPT but GPTM, M standing for Marine grade. LOL You'd think I'd have noticed that a couple years ago but no...........So yea, I've been using Marine grade and not even noticing it. Also found out that the price per foot is much less than I've been paying. Still, I ain't switching as I'm very happy with the stuff I'm putting out.
Now as for where you can get it, there are several out of Europe that will sell per length but I wanted to buy from someone in the states (Redneck in me) so after several days of talking, begging and $$ I did find one that would deal with me. I'm low volume and didn't want to buy everything in 2500 feet of wire spools. Firemn131 found some really good deals so I hope he comes back and shares it. I couldn't get quite that good of a deal here in the states but I still feel good about my dealings.
Right now I don't sell a kit but Roger and I have been talking about how we can do that and still make a bit of $$ from it. After all it is our livelihood.
This is on my "I'd love to do it if I ever find the time and quit working on other things on my car" list. My interest is like the others who have done it - learning more about the car and getting the satisfaction of doing it myself versus trying to save any $$$$...really interested to hear how things go should you decide to build one.
While I am known for my attempts(in vain most of the time) to save money making parts for my cars, I am no match for the quality of Sean's work. And having harnesses that are so flexible is such a difference.
Sean does nice work and the product he makes is well made.
Since this nice part is available this is why I suggested to the OP ,
and any others that might like to take on making a harness,
they should consider this option.
I know most DIY guys like to work with your hands, so do I.
Simple fact, once you get one of these in your hands ,
its so easy to to put it on the engine,
and move onto other things.
I guess you have to pick your battles on what you want to repair.
While I am known for my attempts (in vain most of the time) to save money making parts for my cars, I am no match for the quality of Sean's work. And having harnesses that are so flexible is such a difference.
You should've included an additional pic of the original harness. Stiff, brittle, crumbly, and caked with oil.
I got a chance to check out the new harness today, and I agree with Kevin. A pricey part, but well worth it.
Not sure how we define pricey. Finding, ordering the correct wires is no small task. Then there are all the proper connectors, sheathing, etc. Then the painstaking labor getting the wire lengths correct and actually assembling the harness.
I put one of the harnesses on a 91S4 last night. It was easy and all the connectors ended up exactly where they needed to be. I could not be happier with the quality.
Here's a picture of 91 GT harness that spent last years of its life coated in oil. ]
That is a familiar sight. On mine the outer shrink sleeve was like bakellite so I removed it. I replaced all the smaller cables except the ones to the inlet manifld air temp switch that were OK. I ran the new ones in a plastic flexible conduit and that has stood up well so far. The power cables had some localised insulation damage that I wrapped generously with good quality self vulcanising tape. So far they have held up Ok. I could not find the 3 pin connector for the oil pressure sender so I used a red crimp that was a tight push fit over the pins - not perfect but it seems to work OK most of the time .
I cannot do the 16mm and 10mm sq connectors because I do not have a crimping tool for such but the rest I could do OK. For most folks I would not hesitate to recommend Sean's harness albeit I am not sure what he uses for those three pin senders - that is the item many of us probably need a working solution for.
That is a familiar sight. On mine the outer shrink sleeve was like bakellite so I removed it. I replaced all the smaller cables except the ones to the inlet manifld air temp switch that were OK. I ran the new ones in a plastic flexible conduit and that has stood up well so far. The power cables had some localised insulation damage that I wrapped generously with good quality self vulcanising tape. So far they have held up Ok. I could not find the 3 pin connector for the oil pressure sender so I used a red crimp that was a tight push fit over the pins - not perfect but it seems to work OK most of the time .
I cannot do the 16mm and 10mm sq connectors because I do not have a crimping tool for such but the rest I could do OK. For most folks I would not hesitate to recommend Sean's harness albeit I am not sure what he uses for those three pin senders - that is the item many of us probably need a working solution for.
Rgds
Fred
Like everyone else I eliminate the 3 pin and swap over to the two pin pressure sending unit. The 3rd pen (brown/green wire) is a secondary ground to the instrument cluster. Can't find any reason for it as there is no loss of functionality with it gone, all functions remain. We've been trying for years to get Porsche to get that 3 pin in production but no word on that.
Like everyone else I eliminate the 3 pin and swap over to the two pin pressure sending unit. The 3rd pen (brown/green wire) is a secondary ground to the instrument cluster. Can't find any reason for it as there is no loss of functionality with it gone, all functions remain. We've been trying for years to get Porsche to get that 3 pin in production but no word on that.
Sean,
Unfortunately I learned of that fix just after I had purchased a new sender that as it turned out was probably not needed given the dire condition of my harness wires from the sender.
I am sure you will be very pleased to know I have not patented my hack solution using the crimp connector!
Unfortunately I learned of that fix just after I had purchased a new sender that as it turned out was probably not needed given the dire condition of my harness wires from the sender.
I am sure you will be very pleased to know I have not patented my hack solution using the crimp connector!
The two harnesses I sent out on Monday were for the later cars with it. I gave the option of putting in the 3rd wire and letting them put their own 3 pin connector on there. Sadly there are not many that are in good enough condition to do that with. I was tossing around the idea of putting the pin that goes on the oil level sender and letting peeps crimp it on like you did but no one has taken me up on it
01-24-2017, 08:47 PM
