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Old 11-18-2016, 06:32 PM
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Default Interesting Article on the History of Porsche Transaxle Cars

Came across this at lunch today.
https://www.heacockclassic.com/artic...gine-porsches/
Has some interesting tidbits I wasn't aware of, like Porsche briefly considered a 10 cylinder engine for the 928.

Plus it has this cool factory photo.

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Nate, thanks for the link, nice article.
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Good article! Although the editors should have done a little more fact checking, the subtitle on the picture above says it's a 1992 GTS
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Ha! Good catch. I read right through that.

Also never noticed this before, but on the car in the iconic Ferry Porsche photo looks like it has chrome trim around the windshield. Is this just an optical illusion or is that an early prototype car that had chrome?

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theres no cover over the live hot post in the engine pic!
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Originally Posted by GT6ixer
Ha! Good catch. I read right through that.

Also never noticed this before, but on the car in the iconic Ferry Porsche photo looks like it has chrome trim around the windshield. Is this just an optical illusion or is that an early prototype car that had chrome?
early car for sure; no spoiler, electric antenna, single mirror etc.
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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
early car for sure; no spoiler, electric antenna, single mirror etc.
Geneve '77 show car with special Recaro seats.
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it still amazes me that a real 911 "Porsche purist" does not realize that the 928 is the only 100 percent pure Porsche conceived during the heyday of Porsche. It still remains a marvel of both design and technological development today.
In fact, the body design is so pure that it cannot be modified as you see done in subsequent 911 variations and subsequent variations of other brands of touring super cars. It is the "Mona Lisa" of the automobile world.....
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Nice article thanks for sharing!
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Interesting article.

It misses a couple major points (particularly about the development of the 924), but gets one thing correct:

The idea that the company wanted the 928 to replace the 911 is wrong. The company was afraid that the 911 would be unsellable, due to safety and emissions laws that were proposed. Rear engined and aircooled was potentially going to be outlawed (note that the VW Beetle stopped being sold in the US a couple years before production was ended).
Porsche designed and built the 928 in response to this fear. They also did some serious work on the 911 to keep it available in the US.

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no major component invented outside of Zuffenhausen or Weissach.
Well, except the transmission.
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Originally Posted by GT6ixer
Ha! Good catch. I read right through that.

Also never noticed this before, but on the car in the iconic Ferry Porsche photo looks like it has chrome trim around the windshield. Is this just an optical illusion or is that an early prototype car that had chrome?
I seem to remember Eric's [Hacker] 928 has a chrome trim around the windows- whether it is prototype or stock no idea.

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Originally Posted by marine928
It is the "Mona Lisa" of the automobile world.....
It's just too fat looking for that IMO.

I would argue the 928 would look much sexier if they would have slimmed-down the 'waist' (..the door cross section).

With the middle of the car narrower, it would have created much needed 'hips' (..rear quarters) as the car got wider again in the rear. Icing-on-the-cake would have been shaping those new hips just like the ones on the front fenders which are easily seen in the picture above.
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
It's just too fat looking for that IMO.

I would argue the 928 would look much sexier if they would have slimmed-down the 'waist' (..the door cross section).

With the middle of the car narrower, it would have created much needed 'hips' (..rear quarters) as the car got wider again in the rear. Icing-on-the-cake would have been shaping those new hips just like the ones on the front fenders which are easily seen in the picture above.
Yeah. They tried and failed with the GTS IMHO. I had my rear fenders flared by a metalsmith and asked him to make them look like the spirit of the front fenders. He only did about 1/2-1" of flaring but it looks better. Wish is was more though.
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
It's just too fat looking for that IMO.

I would argue the 928 would look much sexier if they would have slimmed-down the 'waist' (..the door cross section).

With the middle of the car narrower, it would have created much needed 'hips' (..rear quarters) as the car got wider again in the rear. Icing-on-the-cake would have been shaping those new hips just like the ones on the front fenders which are easily seen in the picture above.
As much as we are taught to love the flares over the wheels, it's really an admission of failure in the designers' original mission. The flares and wheel boxes are aero nightmares, and suggest that the designers should have made the car wide enough to cover the tires/wheels the car would need. The 928 GTS has very slightly expanded rear wheelwells, and effort to minimize the upset to the car's lines for the additional horsepower. Evidence the latest 911 variants, with the body wide enough to pretty much eliminate the "hips".

The original design of the car was several inches wider, but was rumored to have been narrowed so it would fit through car washes and ride on traditional transport to dealers.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
As much as we are taught to love the flares over the wheels, it's really an admission of failure in the designers' original mission. The flares and wheel boxes are aero nightmares, and suggest that the designers should have made the car wide enough to cover the tires/wheels the car would need.
An aero nightmare is applicable to a racecar, not a slow-speed street car. Make the street car sexy, like a curvy Aston DB9, and not like a bulbous, station-wagon Panamera.

Evidence the latest 911 variants, with the body wide enough to pretty much eliminate the "hips".
This is not even remotely true...

Look at the difference between the 993 vs the next 911, the 996. The 993 has curves everywhere and big hips, whereas the 996 is a straight slab with no curves. The 911 community revolted over the 'boring' 996 and its complete lack of curves and zero hips (..except for the 'S' model). Every 911 variant after the 996 has gone back to the curvaceous 993 with its nice big hips.



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