Miscellaneous other work on the Red Witch
11-06-2016, 02:10 AM
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Seth I doubt I can teach you anything, but the consensus opinion is the old metal relays with '53' on them are prone to failure and should all be replaced. I figure you knew that.
11-06-2016, 09:36 AM
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Hi Safulop!
You would be wrong then.
I did not know that about the metal can '53' relays. Thanks for the heads-up!
Three more '53' relays and an EZK relay will be on order shortly.
Thanks!
Seth K. Pyle
You would be wrong then.
I did not know that about the metal can '53' relays. Thanks for the heads-up!
Three more '53' relays and an EZK relay will be on order shortly.
Thanks!
Seth K. Pyle
11-07-2016, 02:03 PM
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That EZF relay is a 53 with the [expensive] added function of a built-in fuse tester with LED on top.
My sense would move that one to the horn or other intermittent-duty/non-critical position, and put a new 53 in the critical EZF slot in the panel. If you feel the need for the fuse tester function that is. Otherwise, stick that in your retained-spares box for the car, and use a new 53 in its place.
11-07-2016, 02:33 PM
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AHA!
Thank you, dr bob. That is so simple, that I feel stupid for not thinking of it earlier.
I initially bought new '53' relays for the important functions: EZF, LH, X-bus, fuel pump, and starter.
I was slightly confused by the fuse tester relay, and put it back where I found it.
I will now get five more '53' relays on order and swap them into the CE panel.
Thanks!
Seth K. Pyle
Thank you, dr bob. That is so simple, that I feel stupid for not thinking of it earlier.
I initially bought new '53' relays for the important functions: EZF, LH, X-bus, fuel pump, and starter.
I was slightly confused by the fuse tester relay, and put it back where I found it.
I will now get five more '53' relays on order and swap them into the CE panel.
Thanks!
Seth K. Pyle
11-08-2016, 10:38 AM
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Where've you been getting your relays Seth? Any good deals out there?
11-08-2016, 11:29 AM
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Not sure about any deals, Chris.
Jeannie from 928 Specialists hooked me with with the first set of relays back in April. Haven't bought any since.
Need to start looking again.
Seth K. Pyle
Jeannie from 928 Specialists hooked me with with the first set of relays back in April. Haven't bought any since.
Need to start looking again.
Seth K. Pyle
11-08-2016, 02:34 PM
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Chris--
There are cheap knockoff relays in the market that purport to be suitable replacements for the Bosch 53b relays. Some may be. Meanwhile, considering the potential for stranding me on a lonely stretch of highway somewhere, I'm a fan of installing known-good relays once and avoiding unnecessary worry. I hate getting stranded by stoooopid stuff, it turns out. Our favorite vendors have identified the right Bosch replacement pieces, so I buy from them. There are undoubtedly some OK replacements from "known" brands like P&B, but I'm not ready to be the QC guinea pig for their outsourced manufacturers interested more in low cost than best quality.
Kinda like deciding if that cheap off-brand fuel pump is what you want to depend on to get you there and back. For the relays, the few bucks saved with unknown pieces just isn't worth the risk, in my opinion. For some, saving a couple dollars per relay on six or eight might be worth the risk. The critical relay-relay-relay in the fuel pump, ignition and fuel injection slots, plus the starter and x-bus positions need to be top quality. The likes of the horn and foglight relays are perhaps less critical. Perhaps.
Do It Once. Do It Right. Do It Like You Mean It. Turns out even the top-quality relays are cheap, vs the browbeating available on the side of that lonely highway, 100º, maybe raining, when the wipers or AC won't work, or the car won't run. BTDT, don't want to do it again.
There are cheap knockoff relays in the market that purport to be suitable replacements for the Bosch 53b relays. Some may be. Meanwhile, considering the potential for stranding me on a lonely stretch of highway somewhere, I'm a fan of installing known-good relays once and avoiding unnecessary worry. I hate getting stranded by stoooopid stuff, it turns out. Our favorite vendors have identified the right Bosch replacement pieces, so I buy from them. There are undoubtedly some OK replacements from "known" brands like P&B, but I'm not ready to be the QC guinea pig for their outsourced manufacturers interested more in low cost than best quality.
Kinda like deciding if that cheap off-brand fuel pump is what you want to depend on to get you there and back. For the relays, the few bucks saved with unknown pieces just isn't worth the risk, in my opinion. For some, saving a couple dollars per relay on six or eight might be worth the risk. The critical relay-relay-relay in the fuel pump, ignition and fuel injection slots, plus the starter and x-bus positions need to be top quality. The likes of the horn and foglight relays are perhaps less critical. Perhaps.
Do It Once. Do It Right. Do It Like You Mean It. Turns out even the top-quality relays are cheap, vs the browbeating available on the side of that lonely highway, 100º, maybe raining, when the wipers or AC won't work, or the car won't run. BTDT, don't want to do it again.
11-08-2016, 02:51 PM
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Dr. Bob, you're 100% correct. I don't want to risk getting sub-par equipment.
11-08-2016, 04:01 PM
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